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| Thread ID: 59542 | 2005-07-05 06:30:00 | XP Home install troubles. | waimaks (6990) | Press F1 |
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| 369635 | 2005-07-06 08:34:00 | Aye where did you pick up all those things free?Well the techs at my course have a whole lot of towers they use for parts... one of the towers had a socket 370 mobo which I wanted, the boss said if the techs said I could have it, I get it. The techs said yup :D. The other parts were from a mate of my partners, her motherboard went boof, so I got the rest (incidentally, too late her mate remembered I was doing a tech course, coulda saved her $2500 (two computers and lots of bad advice)) Now if I can get hold of another 80GB harddrive so I can set up a file server in RAID 1 config, things would be sweet. |
Myth (110) | ||
| 369636 | 2005-07-07 06:30:00 | I was kinda surprized that there is such a large amount of discussion on this point, so I called MicroSoft in Texas this evening and asked them what the poop is . . . . I thought I had heard that less than 512 was a mistake, and after our conversation they tell me (OFFICIAL WORD FROM THE PURVEYORS THEMSELVES HERE!) that XP (especially PRO) will not load all the goodies that XP is noted for if the system is too small, too slow or too whatever else qualifies a system for XP requirements . There is a default level that gets lower and lower as the system is slower or less ram . The first thing to go is the choices for screen resolution, as having a few more resolutions values installed takes considerable resources . Bear with me, as the incidences and positions of importance and value here are a little skewed . . I was taking notes as fast as I could, and may have gotten some of these out of sequence . Next is the shadows, cursor tails, macros and macro support, smooth scrolling, restore points allocation size and number, fonts and bolding and Italicised versions, extra languages and font supports, and blended taskbar visual effects and colors and such . Another loss is music playback and ripping values . Also, some of the P'N'P options will not be installed, as they are very system intense, and one would then have to search for individual drivers for hardware, somewhere on line or off one's own cd-rom . Compatability factors will show up too as some of the ability to run old hardware and programs as if they were still in an old system will be unavailable in a cropped install . So, according to M$, they say that the very least for optimum (read: full installation of either version of XP we are talking about here) is 512 ram, 700+ processor and 40 gig hd . We did not talk about any of the other XP versions that are available, only Home and Pro . They know that there are people who do installs out there that say they get XP onto obsolete systems with less ram, but in reality there is a lot of stuff that just isn't installed for them . XP may run, but somewhat crippled . :horrified |
SurferJoe46 (51) | ||
| 369637 | 2005-07-07 20:12:00 | So your saying that 512 minimum with a 700+ processor is the optimal rate? So if you've got a slowish celeron/duron/sempron 700Mhz-1Ghz upgrade the ram and everything should be good? Thats good to know. So what does that mean when new computers now are selling with 256RAM? Even with a 2300+ sempron it would still struggle on 256RAM? And so dose that mean if you install win xp pro/home on a computer around the 700MHz mark, with 256RAM that it won't install all the features, what if you upgrade the ram to 512? Is it better to do a fresh install then. |
Sleepy (7202) | ||
| 369638 | 2005-07-08 06:29:00 | So your saying that 512 minimum with a 700+ processor is the optimal rate? So if you've got a slowish celeron/duron/sempron 700Mhz-1Ghz upgrade the ram and everything should be good? Thats good to know . So what does that mean when new computers now are selling with 256RAM? Even with a 2300+ sempron it would still struggle on 256RAM? And so dose that mean if you install win xp pro/home on a computer around the 700MHz mark, with 256RAM that it won't install all the features, what if you upgrade the ram to 512? Is it better to do a fresh install then . OK . . . again to the people who SHOULD know . . they are writers and troubleshooters for the stuff they screw up . . . M$ (Texas) said: The optimum installation (all the gingerbread and bells and whistles are BEST made for a system with 512, 700+ and 40 gig, at least . That said, there is a certain amount of reluctance (I think) to admit that what a person has is not optimal yet somehow runs just as well as . . . or better then . . or whatever other benchtest they think XP-PRO/HOME needs to show for performance . I deferr to the M$ people, and although I too have had a Dell 500,256k,40gig run (what I thought was) perfectly, I can indeed see and feel the difference in a more modern tower with a lot more ram and (pardon me) LOTS O' HARDDRIVES . I may be off base here with those comparisons, as I do not offer to understand just what a person feels is perfect/well/good/minimal for themselves . However, if a system requires all the room and speed and resources it can get to run the BEST, then that's the goal of which to aspire . Less than that reminds me of the clown car in the circus . . the one where all the clowns keep on pouring outta this little coupe (I would not want to be the person INSTALLING all those clown backstage!) . If they can get that many clown into such a minimal space, then I do indeed believe that one can get XP to run on an abacus too, but I think the beads might smoke from all the friction . PICTURE OF A MAN INSTALLING XP ON A VIC>20 :badpc: |
SurferJoe46 (51) | ||
| 369639 | 2005-07-08 06:39:00 | My under 5 year old kids have a Dell 333Mhz with 128Mb Ram, OS is XP but tweaked for speed but still has the XP look, runs just fine. They play games, play movies, surf the net, all the basic stuff and you woudnt even know it was an old hunk of crap. |
Rob99 (151) | ||
| 369640 | 2005-07-08 06:43:00 | Perhaps someone needs to tell them then? muhahaha. Im sure they would love to have a crack at Dads 3000 AMD,1gb Ram and 6600GT..... |
Metla (12) | ||
| 369641 | 2005-07-08 12:22:00 | Perhaps someone needs to tell them then? muhahaha. Im sure they would love to have a crack at Dads 3000 AMD,1gb Ram and 6600GT..... Mostly the reason they now have a computer.... you just wait, wont be long before bubs is on your knee spilling and mashing all sorts of crap into your keyboard, while you are surfing Disney or Nickjr.com |
Rob99 (151) | ||
| 369642 | 2005-07-12 10:44:00 | Ive just finished constructing a 400MHz Celeron based XP Home machine with 192 MB RAM (best thing, it didn't cost a cent - picked up mobo, PSU, Floppy, and midi tower for free, already had CPU and RAM as well as O/S :D) Not the fastest thing in the world, but it'll do for now. Will increase the RAM to 256 for better results.Just an update to this... Once finished installing SP1, Microsoft Office 2000 and minimal apps (Firefox and one or two others) the harddrive was over half full, and the computer went like a bicycle with one wheel (very slow) Changed CPU to 446 MHz Celeron, and am in process of changing OS to Win 2000 SP4 (again for next to nothing - scored a good deal off TradeMe :D). More updates later (possibly) |
Myth (110) | ||
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