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Thread ID: 59547	2005-07-05 09:04:00	Spyware issues	Bodes (8475)	Press F1

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369672	2005-07-05 11:10:00	Logging in as root also means that any application or process you launch -- knowingly or unknowingly -- has full access to every file on your Mac. By default, OS X users do not log on to a Mac as the root user which is what makes it so secure. Nearly anything you might need root-level privileges to do such as installing programs can be done from within your own user account.	Safari (3993)
369673	2005-07-05 11:13:00	sorry i certainly can't agree that it will be difficult to install spyware on a MAC or any linux pc. if you can install a normall program, you can install a spyware program. the only difference between the two is which side of the fence you are on. most "spyware" are legit programs. proberly only half would use a malicous method of install. the rest are simply installed by users. you are right, if i was to install it it would work if it was designed for the mac,thats not in denial,the point is to install anything in a os x not as simple as clicking the yes button to get rid of the popups, Same with viruses, had a angry call from a mate that said i sent him a virus, I probably did, don't use any antivirus software so some of my emails may be riddled with them, but as they dont effect my computer i dont do anything about it.	plod (107)
369674	2005-07-05 11:20:00	i havn't used mac's since the apple 2e's where around ;) i take it the admin system is like linux, you need to be in root to install a program. this makes it harder for progs to be installed by malicous means however it dosn't stop the user installing it which is how a good 50% of spyware is installed. the only thing stopping them is intent.	tweak'e (69)
369675	2005-07-05 11:26:00	Bodes, If you want to practice some safe computer habits at a basic level do this........ A. Use a browser other than IE B. Do a clean-up after every surfing session - history / temp file / cookies (or whatever they are called depending on your browser) C. Get www.ccleaner.com and run it regularly. ( I do most particularly after going to any 'dodgy' sites (as people do). Sounds to me like you've got a really polluted machine there. HTH......m	mark c (247)
369676	2005-07-05 11:27:00	Bodes, If you want to practice some safe computer habits at a basic level do this........ A. Use a browser other than IE B. Do a clean-up after every surfing session - history / temp file / cookies (or whatever they are called depending on your browser) C. Get www.ccleaner.com and run it regularly. ( I do most particularly after going to any 'dodgy' sites (as people do). Sounds to me like you've got a really polluted machine there. HTH......m seems alot of hassle to go to when surfing the net	plod (107)
369677	2005-07-05 11:38:00	Bodes, If you want to practice some safe computer habits at a basic level do this........ A. Use a browser other than IE B. Do a clean-up after every surfing session - history / temp file / cookies (or whatever they are called depending on your browser) C. Get www.ccleaner.com and run it regularly. ( I do most particularly after going to any 'dodgy' sites (as people do). thats overkill for basic level. cleaning out temp files etc all the time is going to really slow net use down. single biggest thing is to use comman sence. that prevent 90% of malware being installed. useing a non-activeX browser will stop the activeX based ones from loaded from web sites. alternative browsers may also have activeX plugins which can also run activeX content so switching to an alternative browser is not allways a good move. then a decent working antivirus to catch anything trying to autoinstall. then a firewal to alert you to anything that may have gotten installed by other means. and finally spyware removal programs for when they do get installed. hopefully you already have AV and firewalls installed to stop virus's, trojens, worms etc.	tweak'e (69)
369678	2005-07-05 11:41:00	Keeps every machine I maintain running smoothly plod. :D (for a start).	mark c (247)
369679	2005-07-05 12:16:00	Sure tweak'e but I would rather overkill than under. Especially for a novice who reports 307 items of crudware. Removing all this stuff I mentioned hasn't in my experience slowed down surfing. So the log-in cookie for Pressf1 has gone so hoooots, takes a couple of seconds to re-login. Rather be safe than sorry. (be nice to hear back from bodes too.) :D ...................m	mark c (247)
369680	2005-07-06 09:30:00	cleaning out the cache will not prevent ANY malware from installing, it might prevent it reinstalling itself. if your on a super fast broadband you might not notice any difference in browseing speed. however try running it on a 33k modem and there is a HUGE difference in speed, you go from 5 second load time to 60 second load.	tweak'e (69)
369681	2005-07-06 10:16:00	The arguments Windows versus Mac always makes me smile . Microsoft is by far the biggest OS provider, ( whether you like it or not) & will be for a long time to come . Because there are so many MS dissatisfied users, & so many "programmers" want to cause them harm; then MS IS going to be a target for "Damage Makers" Lets face it (whether you like it or not) Mac will never be the same size not in my lifetime anyway . Therefore there is not the Challenge to cause Damage to a Mac system . Windows versus Mac is a personal choice . We are talking Apples & Pears here . Sure they are both "Computer Systems" . A Ford is a Ford, a Holden is a Holden: they are both cars . Who is to say which is better? Just personal choice . So you think Mac and/or Linux is the best? Well bully for you . That is your opinion, " I disagree with you, but I will fight to the death for us to have the right to express opinions" (something like that anyway) . I do wish some people would give it a rest with Windows, Linux, Mac . I get fed up with hearing the same arguments, going nowhere, causing only ill feeling . Rant over, I feel better now PJ :2cents: :blush:	Poppa John (284)
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