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| Thread ID: 137001 | 2014-05-11 07:28:00 | The benefits of Canabis | mzee (3324) | PC World Chat |
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| 1374685 | 2014-05-11 07:28:00 | Its high time that NZ overcame its phobia about Cannabis. The benefits of legalizing Cannabis if used properly are:- 1] People would not resort to using synthetic Cannabis if the real stuff was available. 2] It is easy to grow locally and would save overseas funds. 3] People would not need to go to drug dealers to get it. 4] Cannabis has many medicinal uses, and in South America the oil is used for cooking with, aids the digestion. 5] Would save the Government millions of dollars in prescribed tranquillisers and pain killers for long term treatment. 6] Would save millions in Police action hunting down Cannabis growers and suppliers. 7] Customs duty would be levied on it, except where grown for private consumption, same as home-brew. 8] Probably less addictive than most synthetic tranquillisers and pain killers. |
mzee (3324) | ||
| 1374686 | 2014-05-11 08:00:00 | If it were to be legalised, it would have to be in a controlled manner imo, i.e. as a prescription medicine. | inphinity (7274) | ||
| 1374687 | 2014-05-11 08:03:00 | After all the problems with the so called legal highs and synthetic cannabis I Hope that the politicians will never legalize it. It should be a wake up call for everyone how bad drugs are even this so called "mild" drug.. | paulw (1826) | ||
| 1374688 | 2014-05-11 08:34:00 | Cannabis isn't anywhere near as harmful as synthetic cannabis. I don't think it should be legal just yet (the think of the children patrol couldn't deal with that) but I do think it should be decriminalized. | Alex B (15479) | ||
| 1374689 | 2014-05-11 09:34:00 | It's tough to know for sure how true those reasons are but; 1] People would not resort to using synthetic Cannabis if the real stuff was available. Hard to say, people will do all kinds of crazy **** to get high, alcohol is legal but that doesn't stop people drinking meths. 2] It is easy to grow locally and would save overseas funds. Easy to grow yes, save overseas funds how exactly? 3] People would not need to go to drug dealers to get it. True, and your best point but people don't NEED to go to drug dealers now 4] Cannabis has many medicinal uses, and in South America the oil is used for cooking with, aids the digestion. shh secret squirrel but some medical use has been trialled here and could become legal 5] Would save the Government millions of dollars in prescribed tranquillisers and pain killers for long term treatment. maybe, it would still have a cost and can only replace other drugs in some limited uses 6] Would save millions in Police action hunting down Cannabis growers and suppliers. Ok I'll give you that one 7] Customs duty would be levied on it, except where grown for private consumption, same as home-brew. And the tax on it would likely keep going up until no one could afford it and we were back to those drug dealers again 8] Probably less addictive than most synthetic tranquillisers and pain killers. Total assumption, you need data to back that one up Don't get me wrong I'm not strongly against legalising it, just have my doubts as to any real benefit. If people are stupid enough to wreck themselves on this stuff and aren't bothering me I don't really care. A few points off the top of my head; 1. Deprived of the income from Canabis drug dealers would want to make more money elsewhere and might move to pushing harder drugs 2. Interesting note about use for pain, I know of someone on the maximum allowed morphine prescription who has tried Canabis as an alternative, He says it doesn't numb the pain but it stops you caring :) - probably a legit case where it should be allowed as morphine is much worse 3. There's a push to make the whole country smoke free and Ban tobacco, can you really see them allowing Canabis if they are considering that? 4. No one actually needs drugs (or alcohol for that matter) for recreational purposes, legallising it is pandering to those with no self control 5. It's more carcinogenic than tobacco. 6. It is addictive (despite claims to the contrary) 7. It has long term effects on the mental health of heavy users (nope they don't see it themselves but it's obvious to the rest of us) 8. It can cause permanent brain damage to developing brains and making it legal for adults would make it more easily accessible to youths. 9. If we made every stupid thing people wanted to do legal there'd be no laws |
dugimodo (138) | ||
| 1374690 | 2014-05-11 09:37:00 | Prohibition never works. It just drives "whatever" underground and into criminal hands. It is impossible to prevent adults doing what they wish by legislation. The capacity for stupid behaviour is endless and it is futile to try to prevent idiots from continuing to be idiots by passing laws. I have never used drugs except asprin and the occasional antibiotic as perscribed by my Doctor and after seeing some of the junkies interviewed on TV I am very unlikely to. I have used alcohol and find that is quite suffcient to make me quite stupid enough without anything else being required. | CliveM (6007) | ||
| 1374691 | 2014-05-11 11:10:00 | For dugimodo. Pot is best used through a vaporizer, this method gives just the thc and none of nasties that come with smoking, alternatively baked into brownies or shortbread. No I dont use it personally. | plod (107) | ||
| 1374692 | 2014-05-11 12:26:00 | its much easier to grow than tobacco. 1 ounce of tobacco is like $40 with LOTS AND LOTS of tax. a pack of tailormades are liek $2 in japan. 1 ounce of weed on the black market is easily $300-400. a price under $100 with ABSURD levels of tax is realistic. it makes the best paper and biodegradable plastics. prevents many disease. the leaves and flowers can be juiced for some serious disease cures. i came here to post a thread about ddr4 ssd dimms. its not a drug, its a plant. synthetics are drugs. |
Mirddes (10) | ||
| 1374693 | 2014-05-11 12:30:00 | 1] People would not resort to using synthetic Cannabis if the real stuff was available. - Not specifically, synthetics are far more addictive and provide a greater "high", with significantly worse side-effects. 2] It is easy to grow locally and would save overseas funds. - Save overseas funds from what?! 3] People would not need to go to drug dealers to get it. - They don't have to go to drug dealers now, people don't _have_ to use it 4] Cannabis has many medicinal uses, and in South America the oil is used for cooking with, aids the digestion. - Congratulations, the female praying mantis also eats their partner after sex, but just because something else happens elsewhere in the world doesn't specifically mean it's a good idea we should copy. 5] Would save the Government millions of dollars in prescribed tranquillisers and pain killers for long term treatment. - Not specifically. All factual data I've seen on it has shown it doesn't reduce pain (As mentioned in a prior post) so much as it helps you not to care about the pain 6] Would save millions in Police action hunting down Cannabis growers and suppliers. - Making all hollywood movies free would save them millions chasing online pirates, does that sound like a good idea? Removing all speeding limits would save millions in enforcement. Let's be honest, that's some seriously ****ed up reasoning "Lets make something legal because it costs a lot to enforce good behaviour" 7] Customs duty would be levied on it, except where grown for private consumption, same as home-brew. - Customs only works if it's imported, but you've said just before it's easy to grow locally. Which is it? 8] Probably less addictive than most synthetic tranquillisers and pain killers - All "highs" are addictive, and all will eventually leave the person wanting a bigger high after becoming desensitized to the current "level". Overall I'm still yet to see any semi-decent argument _for_ it. In fact, while we're at it, lets review NZ's absolutely abysmal drinking culture too. |
Chilling_Silence (9) | ||
| 1374694 | 2014-05-11 12:32:00 | It is impossible to prevent adults doing what they wish by legislation. The capacity for stupid behaviour is endless and it is futile to try to prevent idiots from continuing to be idiots by passing laws. Yet we must have laws to prevent people from thinking it's OK to do things like rape, murder, stealing... Yeah it costs a lot to enforce those laws too, but would you rather being a thief was a genuine legal profession? |
Chilling_Silence (9) | ||
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