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Thread ID: 60334 2005-07-29 01:40:00 Interface from digital camcorder to PC (crap image) Oggy (5399) Press F1
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376531 2005-07-29 01:40:00 My daughter and her partner recently bought a Samsung digital camcorder. Brilliant playback onto the big TV but absolute crap when copying to our PC's hard drive for editing (something like 120 x 160 pixels). Turns out the problem was that USB2 isn't quite up to the task of copying movies and that she should have been using a DVI cable into a firewire card. (Possibly the fact that a DVI cable was supplied may have been a clue?). Unfortunately the box didn't didn't really spell that out and the instructions didn't actually say that while USB was fine for transferring single photos, you needed a DVI to move movies. (Said that USB may not give the best results ... understatement of the year). So now I'm up for the cost of a firewire card. Anyone else been caught like this?
Two things came out of this though.
A) My daughter will have to pay for the firewire card as I don't have any devices that use it, so I'll get it for free...
B) While trying to sort the problem with the IT guy at work, we came across footage of my daughter's partner playing boy racers in his turbo Skyline ... with my daughter in the passenger seat. Just wait until I get home tonight! ;)
Oggy (5399)
376532 2005-07-29 01:47:00 I have been injecting just that info everytime others here tell people you can use USB2....

Its a botch job at best,which is why Firewire has always been consirded the protocol to use.
Metla (12)
376533 2005-07-29 02:03:00 i teach video editing & it all comes back to one thing - rtfm... quarry (252)
376534 2005-07-29 02:19:00 I have been injecting just that info everytime others here tell people you can use USB2....

Its a botch job at best,which is why Firewire has always been consirded the protocol to use.

Me too!
Firewire is a much faster transfer method for may reasons
Ignore the technical transfer rates specified for each interface as there are many other factors that come into play.

However, although most of my customers have firewire capable cameras, one doesn't and I transfer hers with USB2.0 and although the transfer is definitely slower I haven't noticed any lesser quality from USB2 (the odd dropped frame or 2 maybe but nothing serious)

I would suggest it may be the capturing software not set correctly
You say you're capturing at 120x160, that would transfer over a serial port with no problems, it's very small and will look crap onscreen

If you're wanting good quality video to write to DVD, capture should be set at 720x526 or higher in the software
Turn off all unnecessary background tasks such as firewalls, antivirus etc
Make sure the computer is junk free, plenty of available drive space and defrag often.
It is also better to capture (and edit) to a 2nd physical hard drive and both drives should be 7200rpm minimum
bartsdadhomer (80)
376535 2005-07-29 02:34:00 I tried USB2 for the sake of ...well...just doing it,and no matter what software I tried it would only capture in very crappy low res Mpeg, wouldn't under any circumstances let me designate DV as a capture format. Metla (12)
376536 2005-07-29 02:41:00 i teach video editing & it all comes back to one thing - rtfm...

RTFM indeed but when the manual says on page 11 in the 'Getting to know your camcorder' section... and I quote

"USB interface for digital image data transfer:
You can transfer still images / movies to a PC using the USB interface without an add-on card"

(EDIT ... what 'on earth') are you supposed to think?

Oh, incidentally, I was wrong. There was no DVI cable supplied ... so there were no clues on this one.
Oggy (5399)
376537 2005-07-29 02:54:00 You're PC definitely is USB2? bartsdadhomer (80)
376538 2005-07-29 02:57:00 You're PC definitely is USB2?

whose?
Metla (12)
376539 2005-07-29 03:02:00 Oggy's
I know yours won't be, those older P133's didn't have it
bartsdadhomer (80)
376540 2005-07-29 03:03:00 Nothing wrong with Serial ports......... Metla (12)
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