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377267	2005-08-02 00:42:00	Bruce, Very interested in what is called MESH. What does it mean by 75m and 150m mesh and is it very difficult to install ? I tried some years ago to put in some NZ scenery from a couple of chaps in Christchurchy and ended up in one hell of a mess, so your advice would be appreciated. Basically, to create the vertical shape of the terrain in FS - the hills, mountains valleys etc -- the sim uses what is known as a mesh. Imagine a grid - a mesh - and at each point on that grid you have a piece of elevation data saying that a this point the land is this high. The sim basically then joins the dots between those points, so that if point A is 75m above sea level and point B is 20 m above sea level the sim assumes a gradual decline in elevation between points A and B, creating a slope. Now the smaller the scale of that grid - i.e the less distance between points A and B -- the more accurate the result will be when the Sim joins the dots. The "default" resolution for most of the terrain (the entire world) depicted in FS "out of the box" is a bit over 1km. In some places they used a higher res but for NZ that's about what it is. (higher res data takes up a lot more space). Now with NZ that creates some serious problems. For example, when your mesh/grid points are 1km apart, it effectively smoothes out the terrain because it knows nothing about changes in elevation between Point A and B between that 1km distance between them. Auckland's volcanic cones become slight bumps, the Southern Alps become rolling hills. In NZ, elevation can change dramatically over 1km. What these add-in mesh files do is reduce the distance between sampling points from 1km to 175m, 75m, 40m or 20m depending on which one you use. And at each higher resolution the result gets closer and closer to displaying the landform as it really is. Installing the meshes isn't hard - the new ones come with an auto-installer that does it for you and there is a PDF manual here that covers what you need to do after running the installer (also included in the mesh download): www.geographx.co.nz	Biggles (121)
377268	2005-08-02 01:04:00	What do you do in a game with nothing to shoot at? I'm serious, Do you play the game from the cockpit view and look at a distant horizen or spend the majority of the time above the aircraft looking down at the scenery? Flt Sims are not games, they are a real life experience. There can be a great deal of satisfaction in mastering the controls of a modern complex aircraft and aviation enthusiasts can get as much satisfaction in completing an ILS approach into a busy airport or experiencing how a vintage aircraft handles as others get from the less intellectual shotup type games.	Safari (3993)
377269	2005-08-02 01:08:00	Are you a joke? I spend a great deal of time on race-sims where years of effort have gone into simulating real worl pyhsics,conditions,cars and tracks. These are still games, as is a flight sim.If you think a flight-sim is a real world experience you need to get out more. I didn't ask what got your rocks off,but simply what the player did in flight.	Metla (12)
377270	2005-08-02 01:29:00	Are you a joke? I spend a great deal of time on race-sims where years of effort have gone into simulating real worl pyhsics,conditions,cars and tracks. These are still games, as is a flight sim.If you think a flight-sim is a real world experience you need to get out more. I didn't ask what got your rocks off,but simply what the player did in flight. You obviously like to keep your feet on the ground, try rising above it sometime. Some flt sims are approved by FAA, they don't approve games as a means to obtain an instrument rating. www.x-plane.com	Safari (3993)
377271	2005-08-02 01:48:00	LOL Metla, that's the last time I offer you advice on how to be a Medic in BF2 . . . now you'll want to really be a medic instead of 'pretending'! :eek: Anyway, I find Flight Simming to be a great hobby . I am interested in planes, and get a great deal of enjoyment from the following: Starting up one from cold, fuel and pax load correct, setting the headings, frequencies for the navigation (VOR/DME/ADF etc), planning my route according to the recognised routes from the charts, tuning the controller frequencies to talk to ATC to gain flight clearance, departing, flying the approved departure route, changing to other ATC's in flight, talking to other people from all around the world wither in voice orin text during the flight (try Vatsim, it's awesome) co-ordinating approach according to the standard approach procedures, landing with help from the plane's automatic glidescope systems, plane's flaps and throttle control, once landed, requesting taxi to the apron, closing off the flight plan, shutting down the plane, logging the flight with all details of time, speed, fuel, altitude, pax etc . I guess you wont be joining me in a 3 hour trip to Aussie then? The controllers are real people on Vatism (http://vatsim . net/), as are other pilots . Many are in the aviation industry or have been . You speak to them, learn from them, achieve results with them . I am part of an international Virtual Airline that means that I talk to and text communicate with people worldwide, in flight and in forums, and have made some great online friendships . As opposed to the likes of BF/CS etc, these guys are usually in the 30's and over, rather than whiny 12 year olds . It's whatever floats your boat really, and offers escapism for me . Now stop stirring! lol	Jester (13)
377272	2005-08-02 01:49:00	Plus, once you've got all these add-ons you can take a virtual holiday around NZ. Cheaper than the real thing and you get to control the weather ....	Biggles (121)
377273	2005-08-02 01:55:00	Nah, I use Activesky for the weather, accurate metars and helps performance by taking over the rendering of clouds, rain etc from FS.	Jester (13)
377274	2005-08-02 02:19:00	For Metla When once you have tasted flight you will always walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward; for there you have been and there you will always be." Leonardo da Vinci For those into Flt Sims you might be interested in this site. www.stoenworks.com Scroll to the bottom to the tutorials, there is a mass of flight instruction and information about instruments, nav and coms and various instrument approaches.	Safari (3993)
377275	2005-08-02 02:28:00	Three posts because you think your game is a real world experience? Keep it up, though your due to make another amazing post about correct spelling sometime soon. Great quote btw,means nothing but shows that you aren't capable of wit or insight yourself, quote away tiny one.	Metla (12)
377276	2005-08-02 02:32:00	Three posts because you think your game is a real world experience? Keep it up, though your due to make another amazing post about correct spelling sometime soon. Great quote btw,means nothing but shows that you aren't capable of wit or insight yourself, quote away tiny one. Mods - There is no need to ban Metla for breaking the rules I am not offended, just amused really.	Safari (3993)
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