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| Thread ID: 138494 | 2014-12-08 20:35:00 | Backup and Restore issue | DeSade (984) | Press F1 |
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| 1389778 | 2014-12-11 06:18:00 | I second Active@ and it costs quite a bit less than $100 mine licence was about half that 2 years ago and its saved my bacon enough times to warrant the cost. | gary67 (56) | ||
| 1389779 | 2014-12-11 07:28:00 | ok wainui, you don't like shadow protect, we get it. | Alex B (15479) | ||
| 1389780 | 2014-12-11 07:55:00 | ok wainui, you don't like shadow protect, we get it. I didn't say that at all. What I am saying is every time I have tried it it doesn't do what I wanted or takes to long to do what other software does in half the time. Theres actually some free software that does a better job ( from experience) I notice theres a few people who recommend products yet when it actually comes to trying to do what someone asks they don't actually have a damn clue. Anyone can suggest something but when it comes to working they cant honestly say they have tried it. most replies about this have suggested a bootable CD - guess what -- that's NOT whats required. So tell me have YOU actually tested and Done exactly what was asked in the original question relating to the requirements, and been able to supply links to actual trial programs that are fully functional ? There are actually two other backup programs I tried, but they failed to do what was asked, so thats why they weren't mentioned before. Why dont you Put up, if not then maybe shut up. |
wainuitech (129) | ||
| 1389781 | 2014-12-11 09:09:00 | Shadow Protect isn't a drive imaging tool. The issues you're having is because you're not using it for it's intended purpose. In the OP's case why would he even need to restore more than one volume? Shadow Protect can be completely automated to do backups how ever often you want and you can be granular to what point you restore from. IMO any solution where you restore to an image you made 6-8 months or what ever ago is flawed. Maybe other programs can do this, but I have used Shadow Protect and find it does it's job very well. Not that it matters to OP but the features like driver injection going from system to system are fantastic. With the rise of virtual machines luckily it's not something I have to deal with a whole lot now days. |
Alex B (15479) | ||
| 1389782 | 2014-12-11 19:11:00 | Shadow Protect isn't a drive imaging tool. The issues you're having is because you're not using it for it's intended purpose. In the OP's case why would he even need to restore more than one volume? . Are you serious :horrified My suggestion is you contact Shadow Protect and tell them their own web site is wrong-- in the following link it clearly states it is drive imaging / cloning software.www.shadowprotect.com As for the question, Windows 7 actually has a hidden partition. What also if a person has a drive partitioned into -- oh lets say 4 partitions -- and that drive fails ? Shadow protect does have an option to repair the boot and leave that partition out. Other software allows you to image ALL partitions and put them ALL back. Last time I used shadow Protect you had to manually create different partitions and then restore each one at a time. ( long way of doing it) I was going to download a trial to see what changes had been made as many people asked for the feature (multi Partitions at once- like other software can do) But the trial doesn't allow to recover the whole partition only files and folders. General backing up of files is not what was asked, if it were, there are many free and paid software options that will do that. The whole idea of a image is to copy the complete drive, Operating system, programs, Data. That way if something goes pear shaped like massive corruption, or a HDD failure then a image can be put back that contains all the before mentioned. Saves having to re-install windows, install all programs, reset tasks, and in the case of a server, resetting all the requirements that the server does. You can also make a Image for new Builds, sysprep it and then use that to install on a New PC, add in the user details and new Licence key - saves Hours of work manually installing, updating etc. Going by the quote - Shadow protect wouldn't do what the OP asked anyway, so its a no go - So why suggest it ? ;) As I mentioned before, to many people suggest items and dont really know all the ins and out or have actually tried what is required, either by experience or doing a test :) |
wainuitech (129) | ||
| 1389783 | 2014-12-11 19:47:00 | Shadow Protect is a volume imaging/restoration tool. Hence all the issues you have with it. The OP wants something where he can restore the OS if it's been messed with. There is no mention of drive failure protection where you would need to restore multiple volumes, and if it did happen on the rare occasion, who cares if it takes a bit longer to restore? It's a once in a blue moon problem for the average consumer. Shadow Protect works fine. |
Alex B (15479) | ||
| 1389784 | 2014-12-11 20:01:00 | Alex re read the original post -- to save you time Backup/Restore/Clone software that does all of the following •Creates a image/clone of the entire C:\ •Stores that image on a USB key •Creates its own boot disc on the same USB key as the image •Machine OS is fubar'ed •The kid puts in the USB stick and allows it to boot the machine •The software used to create the backup runs and gives him the option to use the image file on the same USB key •The machine restores to the backup leaving him a clean working machine It was stated before Shadow Protect isn't a drive imaging tool -- Yet the link provided clearly states it is. Question: With Shadow protect,have you actually ever created a USB drive with the requirements of being able to boot from the USB Drive, which contains a image and put it back onto the original HDD as requested ? |
wainuitech (129) | ||
| 1389785 | 2014-12-11 20:21:00 | Sometimes what a person wants and what they actually need are not the same. How do you make it fast, robust, cost effective, incremental with backups and restore points with say 32-64GB USB stick? The best option would be to buy a 1TB or so HDD, Boot from some sort of portable media, be it cd or usb and then restore your data that's living on the external HDD to what ever time/date you want to restore to. Minimal down time and minimal data loss. |
Alex B (15479) | ||
| 1389786 | 2014-12-11 20:36:00 | Sometimes what a person wants and what they actually need are not the same. How do you make it fast, robust, cost effective, incremental with backups and restore points with say 32-64GB USB stick? The best option would be to buy a 1TB or so HDD, Boot from some sort of portable media, be it cd or usb and then restore your data that's living on the external HDD to what ever time/date you want to restore to. Minimal down time and minimal data loss. Doesn't need to be fast and I do not need restore points. Its just a robust way for the kid to correct his own mistakes instead of his parents paying a fortune in IT fees (or asking me). But it also allows him to explore and learn and its key that is retained as well. Eventually he will learn to create his own backups (especially if he bricks it a few times) and from there he will manage it himself but till then I just want a easy way for him to get back to a working machine. While not ideal for most of us, it will actually be good for him to lose whatever he has put on the machine since I made the backup (do that a few times and he will learn). From the sounds of this Active@ is my best option purely because I can make sure it works before shelling out any cash. |
DeSade (984) | ||
| 1389787 | 2014-12-11 20:52:00 | If a OS gets toasted as its been mentioned it does, simply putting back the data would do absolute nothing. Fitting a image all on a 32-64 GB hdd, piece of cake with room to spare. Most Imaging software will compress the image. So A fresh install of Windows 7 all up to date, with a few games on, and other related programs could easily be reduced to under 10GB. See the picture below -- Its a Image of Windows 7 X64, up to date as of September 2014, includes Office 2013, Nitro Reader, couple of Media Players, DVD writing software, Firefox. 6075 Notice the size of the Image. Add on another 500 -700MB ( roughly) for the Imaging program and still plenty of room on a 32GB Drive :) Storing backups on an external HDD is good, booting from a CD is the usual way with imaging software, but its not what was asked. |
wainuitech (129) | ||
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