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Thread ID: 137167 2014-05-30 09:04:00 Who is responsible for a power pole fuse? mzee (3324) PC World Chat
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1376233 2014-05-31 21:50:00 If the bit between the pole and me belongs to me, I might as well pop in a couple of power points above the lawn to power the 25KW patio heater I have just found to be remarkably cheap to run. ;)

Like this idea.....LOL

Seriously. When we had the meters changed on our switchboard we were not charged. So surely they must be owned by our supplier?
Ergo, the stuff between the pole and switchboard as well.....
ManUFan (7602)
1376234 2014-05-31 22:43:00 The pole fuse is what used to be pulled (by the power company) when the customer was a really bad debtor, as an encouragement to pay their bill - which suggests that the pole fuse is owned by the company (line company, most likely).

If this was not the case then a legal argument could be made against a power company if a customer was disconnected in this way, since, if the pole fuse was the responsibility of the customer, the power company would be illegally confiscating the customer's property.
johcar (6283)
1376235 2014-05-31 23:45:00 If this was not the case then a legal argument could be made against a power company if a customer was disconnected in this way, since, if the pole fuse was the responsibility of the customer, the power company would be illegally confiscating the customer's property. They ( power Companies) could also use the reasoning that they have supplied the person with a service ( electricity) and the person has willingly used it yet refuses to pay - so they could say it was being used with no intention of paying. wainuitech (129)
1376236 2014-06-01 00:10:00 They ( power Companies) could also use the reasoning that they have supplied the person with a service ( electricity) and the person has willingly used it yet refuses to pay - so they could say it was being used with no intention of paying.

However, I could respond that every single electron the power co delivered had been returned virtually instantly, in good order and condition, clean and with the same weight and colour etc that it had when delivered. I would demand that they allow credit for these returned goods in accordance with the agreement I posted under a stone at the back of a remote property in Monrovia. By connecting their wires to my property they agree to accept all terms of this agreement. Any dispute they wish to register with me must be accompanied by a surety not less than 2,500 ounces of fine gold. This may be forfeit if I as sole arbitrator deem their dispute to be frivolous or malicious.

(Inspired by standard but variable multi-national EULAs.) ;)
R2x1 (4628)
1376237 2014-06-01 01:28:00 They ( power Companies) could also use the reasoning that they have supplied the person with a service ( electricity) and the person has willingly used it yet refuses to pay - so they could say it was being used with no intention of paying.

No argument here. My point is that they can't have it both ways: theirs to pull if the customer doesn't pay them, but the customer's to maintain/replace...

If it belongs to the customer (maintain/replace argument), then the power company has no right to touch the pole fuse in a non-payment scenario.

If the power company owns the pole fuse (as indicated by their ability/willingness to pull the fuse in a non-payment scenario) then the customer doesn't have to maintain/replace it...

The pole fuse is a piece of network equipment, as is the power meter (which is much closer to the house than a pole fuse, but is owned by the retailer). The customer doesn't have to maintain the meter, so it stands to reason that the pole fuse is nothing to do with the customer either.
johcar (6283)
1376238 2014-06-01 10:21:00 No argument here. My point is that they can't have it both ways: theirs to pull if the customer doesn't pay them, but the customer's to maintain/replace...



Its common to use something - a car, a lathe, a building etc - which we do not own, but for which we are responsible. Its not a big stretch to include the fuse on a pole.

For example, there is a transformer outside my house which I paid for but which the lines company owns. If it fails...:stare:

Edit: thinking about it, thats probably what happened to this elderly gentleman. Bloody awful no matter the rights and wrongs of it.
Winston001 (3612)
1376239 2014-06-01 10:41:00 We (well, the old dudes) bought the wood, steel, concrete and copper that the people we paid used to build the power networks. Then some blackguards we paid to mind the shop sold our property to a bunch of conniving sharks that strive night and day to charge us more each month to use the product of the facilities we set up. It is time we had a whip round for these miscreants - perhaps they could be more gainfully employed as galley slaves plying Cook Strait. (If any oars fall off, off with the galley slave's head.) The power co directors would be tied to the wharf piles, absorbing shocks instead of instigating them. The politicians would become foundation members of a reclamation project somewhere unpleasant. ;) R2x1 (4628)
1376240 2014-06-01 19:51:00 Yeah R2x1, we've been, are being, ripped off severely with no end in sight and are expected to bend over and take more of the same, all in the name of privatisation.

Thanks for nothing roger douglas, richard prebble et al, and their puppet masters in amerika.
zqwerty (97)
1376241 2014-06-01 22:18:00 Yeah R2x1, we've been, are being, ripped off severely with no end in sight and are expected to bend over and take more of the same, all in the name of privatisation.

Thanks for nothing roger douglas, richard prebble et al, and their puppet masters in amerika.
Go the commie
prefect (6291)
1376242 2014-06-03 02:43:00 On May 19, Mr Jenkins received a $275.23 bill for the temporary repair work and after questioning his responsibilities for maintenance, he was told more permanent work was needed at a cost, to him, of $580.


There's more to this story than written here - if it was a blown fuse, you DON'T need to come back a second time and make permanent repairs.
decibel (11645)
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