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381970 2005-08-21 21:15:00 It actually says after an emerge that you need to run: etc-update
;)

emerge guitoo or porthole (I cant remember which I liked, GuiTOO IIRC, I just use bash)

gdm? the login manager?

You need a real WM/DE emerged before anything will kick in. Try emerge openbox to get you started if you're in a hurry and work your way up from there :)
Chilling_Silence (9)
381971 2005-08-22 05:51:00 It actually says after an emerge that you need to run: etc-updateWhile I still use etc-update (when I do find time to boot up Gentoo), I see that it has been superseded by dispatch-conf (gentoo-wiki.com) now. You do have to be careful with etc-update as you can hose your system easily with it if you do not pay attention. When you run etc-update, you will see all the config files that got changed with your last emerge update (or previous emerges if you haven't dealt with them). It gives you the option of viewing the changes between each file, so that you can see what the change was. You then can then decide to replace the old file with the updated one, or keep the original file. For many files, it is OK just to let the original file be replaced, however, if you ever see any file which you have personally modified eg fstab, grub, xorg etc and also any file which is related to permissions and security, then be very, very careful with replacing it as you will lose your customisations. Take this from experience :D

If you have heaps of files awaiting update, then you can just browse through the list and manually check out the ones which may be adversely affected with being replaced, and once they have been sorted you can do a mass accept the changes for the rest.
Jen (38)
381972 2005-08-22 08:22:00 Word of advice:
Dont update your fstab
I did and it changed what it thought my / partion was - Not good
;)

Superseded? Shows how often I actually use the bl00dy thing :p
Chilling_Silence (9)
381973 2005-08-22 21:42:00 OK, I have mounting issues... Helpppp

This is what I have done....

# mkdir /mnt/wfat32
# mount -t vfat /dev/hda3 /mnt/wfat32
mount: /dev/hda3 is not a valid block device

In /etc/fstab I have....

/dev/hdb1 /boot ext2 defaults,noatime 1 2
/dev/hdb3 / ext3 noatime 0 1
/dev/hdb2 none swap sw 0 0
/dev/cdroms/cdrom0 /mnt/cdrom iso9660 noauto,user,rw 0 0
/dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto noauto,user,rw 0 0
/dev/hda3 /mnt/wfat32 vfat auto,users,rw,owner,umask=000 0 0

This gives me the same message (/dev/hda3 is not a valid block device)

What have I done wrong?
Incidentally the /etc/fstab line is exactly the same as it was in FC4

This is a dev I have tried to mount after I have installed Gentoo (not during).

Also, I am having issues with my CDRW, whats it supposed to be called in fstab? I only have the cdrom listed which works fine
Myth (110)
381974 2005-08-22 22:02:00 Edit:... while looking for the answer; just stumbled across fdisk -l command, discovered why it wouldn't mount /dev/hda3

For some reason it sees the third partition on the other drive as hda6 ???

As far as the cdrw is concerned, should I use submount?
Myth (110)
381975 2005-08-23 02:49:00 /me uses SubFS :)

Im not sure if you emerge subfs or submount, but its there somewhere
Chilling_Silence (9)
381976 2005-08-23 03:55:00 The /dev/hdX assignments usually aren't in a simple sequence. /dev/hda1, /dev/hda4, /dev/hda5, /dev/hda6 might be typical. In that case, /dev/hda1 would be an ordinary partition. /dev/hda4 would be an extended partition containing the other two. Graham L (2)
381977 2005-08-23 13:19:00 cat /proc/partitions is your safest bet to find them ;) Chilling_Silence (9)
381978 2005-08-23 21:29:00 Hmmm, seems my Gentoo experience has become unstuck....
I couldn't get Xmms to show up after installation (via Portage)
Then K3b refused to download and install (got to about 4 of 15 then sprang an error)
Then Samba (Couldn't find a file from various sites) :(

Decided to uninstall Gentoo, and opted for FC4 again (which I really did'nt want to do as Gentoo was growing on me).

However, the experience wasn't a complete waste of time (learnt heaps about linux), and Gentoo will get another lookin (definately) when I get more linux time under my belt (while keeping an eye on Gentoo.org as far as new developments).

After using Gentoo, I can see why FC4 is considered a noob distro lol
Myth (110)
381979 2005-08-24 06:46:00 It is a shame you decided to stop at this point with your Gentoo experience. This is where a spare computer to experiment on comes in handy, or using removable hard drive caddies so that your routine computer use is not disrupted too much during this learning phase. :)

Out of interest, with xmms not "showing" up, did you try launching it from the command line with the command "xmms" (or with ALT-F2) rather than looking for it on the Gnome menu?

Installing k3b on a Gnome desktop can be a little problematic due to the dependencies associated with not having a KDE base installed. It should work though, but you do end up with a nice collection of essentials also downloading. :p

From your samba error and problem with k3b, it does sound like your mirror selections for the ebuilds or your USE flags might of needed checking out. Samba is common, and there shouldn't of been a problem finding the required ebuilds. :)


However, the experience wasn't a complete waste of time (learnt heaps about linux), and Gentoo will get another lookin (definately) when I get more linux time under my belt (while keeping an eye on Gentoo.org as far as new developments).Good on you. :)
Jen (38)
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