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382552 2005-08-20 13:15:00 How to access protected ntfs folder? The systems fails and I am using the hard disk in another machine to access the folder but it is protected - access denied. I need to recover those documents. Can I be lucky ? Pherino (8753)
382553 2005-08-20 14:13:00 If I understand your problem correctly, you have some files that are encrypted..right? And, you want to be able to read them..right?

Even though I think you might be trying to access someone else's files without permission, the work-around for this is simple.

Open an e-mail client, then find the file you want to "read" and right click on it. SAVE it and then PASTE it into the body of the e-mail you will now send to yourself. As an alternative, you can also right click and SEND TO..E-MAIL etc; it's the same thing if you've got the POP3 accounts all set up correctly.

Encrypted files/folders and "secret" stuff can be opened this way..it's a flaw in M$'s encryption system. When you receive the file(s) in your e-mail box, it/they will be opened for you to read. :xmouth: 		SurferJoe46 (51)
382554 2005-08-20 21:23:00 Welcome to PressF1 Pherino

No idea what Email has to do with this..... :-/

Right-click on the File/Folder and go to Properties
Go to the Security tab
Throw your name in there and assign yourself Read/Write permissions. You'll need to be a local administrator to do this

You should then be able to access the files/folders fine :)

Cheers


Chill. 		Chilling_Silence (9)
382555 2005-08-20 22:24:00 chill_

. . . . . . . . . . . . we might be at crossed references here, as I see the way you told him to get the files/folders . I just thought he wanted to get them opened and the fastest way to un-encrypt them was like I said . . use the loophole M$ built into Windows XP-Pro .

The way I do it (if for SOME reason I forgot the pasword or need to have the file on another computer) . . . is just to send it to myself on a right click . . . doing so un-encrypts the whole file/folder . . . even if the 'puter that receives them is not XP-Pro .

I don't feel this person wanted to access a hard drive that's encrypted . . . just some of the files on it . If you can SEE the files, but not open them (access denied) then the e-mail trick works well .

But, if there's more to his question that wasn't said . . . I was never here or said anything . . . . . . . . :waughh: 		SurferJoe46 (51)
382556 2005-08-20 22:31:00 They say the files are on a secound drive, proberly from another machine and the drive installed on this machine, if so............
try want already been suggested, if that doesn't work do a forum search on
"take ownership of files" or even google the same term. 		beama (111)
382557 2005-08-21 03:32:00 You'll be wanting SUBINACL [free to download from microsofts site]

Download it here. (www.microsoft.com)

It's a command line tool to force change of ownership, etc.

Once you get it. You'll need to do this:

1. Put the hard-drive in your 2000/XP PC

2. Share the hard-drive using the drive letter as the share name
e.g. \\pcname\e = Your PC \ e drive [change 'e' to whatever drive letter]

3. Start > Run "cmd" and navigate to the subinacl directory.
e.g. cd "C:\Program Files\Windows Resource Kits\Tools"

4. Make sure you know your PCs name, this can be found by typing 'hostname' in the command prompt window. Also make sure you know what user you're signed into windows as.

5. Alter this to match your PC/User/Share names.
SubInAcl /subdirectories \\hostname\sharename\*.* /grant=hostname\username=F /noverbose /display

Mine looks like this: SubInAcl /subdirectories \\evil\e\*.* /grant=evil\administrator=F /noverbose /display

6. After this has finished go.. Start > Run "\\hostname\sharename"
An explorer window will pop up with the contecnt of that drive, you will be able to see/copy/delete ANYTHING and EVERYTHING.. So make a backup copy.

After that, format the drive, chuck it back in the other PC, reinstall windows.. Then copy everything back that you want.

Good luck! 		l0gic (6781)
382558 2005-08-21 09:44:00 So you're saying that WinXP's encryption is useless?

I find that hard to believe.....

The Linux encryption is bulletproof! Mac too AFAIK!!!

L0gic is following with the same train of thought as me :)

Does your theory work if the files are encrypted on PC #1, then you take the HDD out, boot a different WinXP install on PC #2 and then access the encrypted files on PC #1's HDD?!

I find this hard to believe, but have been wrong in the past.... 		Chilling_Silence (9)
382559 2005-08-21 16:11:00 chill_

let me drop back here a bit . . . . . . . .

I have had a lot of troubles in the past with changing drives from one XP-Pro tower to another . . . I got some varied theories on accessing data from one drive placed into another unit . Remember that I am playing with 4 200/g Raid 0+1 drives here, 4 200/g JBOD's and 1 40/g with just the OPSYS on it .

That problem was all sorted out . . . but while I was running around with trying to get data from one tower to another (not EVEN thinking of RAID arrays here!), I did find that the Pro file encryption is very breakable in a very arcane way .

If one has a file that is encrypted in XP-Pro, and one wants to read it in another unit . . or shudder to think that one has lost the ability to read BUT CAN STILL SEE THE FOLDER/FILE, then it's a simple matter of just e-mailing it to yourself . If access is denied to you, the file will arrive all un-encrypted, and you can have your way with it from that point on .

This has worked for me . . . and I just tried it with another file from one machine to another . . . even on a LAN . Once the file is send thru the e-mail, it's opened and readable/useable on the receiving unit .

I do believe that this is just in XP-Pro, (but might work on any of the Pro Windows series) which I have on everything here on my LAN, and a few older Dells I have loaned out or given away to friends . I seed files on them from time to time, and encrypt them there via the built-in encrypter . . . and I have never had to do anything other than e-mail them to me to open them even from or to a different unit . All I know, is that it works .

Hmmmmmmmm . . . got me thinking I might try something new today too . . . I will try to Winrar or Zip one encrypted file and send it to a pc I will be at tomorrow . . . and see if it arrives opened after unzipping it .

Will let you know . :waughh: 		SurferJoe46 (51)
382560 2005-08-21 16:12:00 ....has anyone played with Firefox's Enigmail?

http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ 		SurferJoe46 (51)
382561 2005-08-21 16:19:00 BULLETIN . . . . . . . . . BULLETIN!

I got an encrypted file from an XP-Pro, NTFS opened in an XP-Home FAT32! I just e-mailed it from the XP-Pro/NTFS Encrypted file to an XP-Home/FAT32 and it was readable!

So . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . it might work on other bases too! 		SurferJoe46 (51)
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