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385703 2005-09-03 10:56:00 In my Mind Celerons have always had quite a negative stigma associated with them. I have always been told to stear clear of them because they have slower FSB speeds and generaly lower caches. I notice the Celeron M Range are becoming common in the Notebook/laptop range, do these suffer the same short commings?
Or have times moved on? Is the Celeron making a come back?
Would love to have your thoughts on this thanks, preferably no flame wars if it goes that far :)
mattyjb (7993)
385704 2005-09-03 11:03:00 celerons are still inferior, but it wouldn't be very smart to put a full power desktop processor into something running off a battery. I'm not sure what the power consumption is like on the pentium Ms, but a pIV sucks way too much power to be put in a laptop. Greven (91)
385705 2005-09-03 11:11:00 Thats a good point, but on the other hand what about some of these mobile chips that AMD are bringing out? Do you, or anyone have any thoughts on them, what is their preformance like? mattyjb (7993)
385706 2005-09-03 11:21:00 My laptop uses a Celeron M CPU, purposely chosen as I neither want the heat or the power usage of a desktop chip for the laptop.

Look at the issues people are having with fast P4 or AMD chips in laptops (use Google to find the info) and you will see whay its good to steer clear of them.

There is just no way to dissapate that heat, without speed stepping the CPU down (which then negates the fast CPU) or risking a thermally induced shutdown.

The Pentium M (Mobile) is a Celeron based CPU as far as I am aware, best served in the Centrino chipset combination.
godfather (25)
385707 2005-09-03 11:47:00 Celerons got a bad name at the start from having no secondary cache at all. These machines were real dogs - and Intel quickly realized their mistake & added some L2 cache but not as much as the Pentium. Since then, Celerons have been quite reasonable PCs as long as you realize they are not quite as good as the same generation Pentiums.

If you need the power of the full Pentium CPU - go for it. But if you don't it is a bit like putting a V8 in your shopping trolley (excuse the exageration!).
johnd (85)
385708 2005-09-03 11:53:00 I see what you mean, I guess it all comes down to the use of the machine in the end... and the budget :) mattyjb (7993)
385709 2005-09-03 12:00:00 Celerons are OK provided you only want to run one program at a time. Agent_24 (57)
385710 2005-09-03 14:07:00 My laptop uses a Celeron M CPU, purposely chosen as I neither want the heat or the power usage of a desktop chip for the laptop.

Look at the issues people are having with fast P4 or AMD chips in laptops (use Google to find the info) and you will see whay its good to steer clear of them.

There is just no way to dissapate that heat, without speed stepping the CPU down (which then negates the fast CPU) or risking a thermally induced shutdown.

The Pentium M (Mobile) is a Celeron based CPU as far as I am aware, best served in the Centrino chipset combination.
pentium m are actually P3 chips
plod (107)
385711 2005-09-03 22:52:00 As mentioned previously, it depends on the intended use and budget. Check out the information on each Intel processor here. (www.intel.com)
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andrew93 (249)
385712 2005-09-03 23:04:00 My experience of Celery's pretty much sums it up... my missus' laptop runs with a C2.93 CPU, and compared to my desktop, running a P4 2.4, it's a fair bit slower loading apps, slower to switch between apps when multitasking, and, as an experiment I installed a recent graphics-intensive game - it ran like a disabled slug.

However... it runs applications such as MS Office wonderfully.
Greg (193)
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