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Thread ID: 61409 2005-09-03 21:20:00 Can't get dual networks to work at same time SteveH (8822) Press F1
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385828 2005-09-04 09:54:00 Hey Tazz, I'm guessing SteveH wants to run at gigabit speeds and Gigabit switchs are still a little pricey.
SteveH - if speeds not an issue, a $25 switch is definately the best way to go.
Freejack (375)
385829 2005-09-04 11:41:00 Hey Tazz, I'm guessing SteveH wants to run at gigabit speeds and Gigabit switchs are still a little pricey.
SteveH - if speeds not an issue, a $25 switch is definately the best way to go.Why does Steve need a switch?
He has a 4 port router that will do the job sufficiently.
All he needs is a pair of straight through cables to connect each computer to the router.
Myth (110)
385830 2005-09-05 18:03:00 Connect the other PC to the router. That is more likely to work. Your PC is only a single host, so it can only "be" one IP address at any one time, even though it has two Ethernet interfaces. Linux allows multihosting, but that's a real multiuser system.

Thanks. Have thought of that, but would prefer not to have the second PC connected to the Internet if possible (it is in my young son's room!).

I thought the whole idea of having 2 network interfaces on the motherboard was to allow easy connection to the Internet as well as a LAN (eg for gaming)?
SteveH (8822)
385831 2005-09-05 18:08:00 Possibly hes trying to use a gigabit crossover and fast ethernet to router?

Yep, that's the intention. I really only bought the router to provide NAT for better security on my broadband connection, but want to make use of the gigabit speed for the LAN with my other PC.
SteveH (8822)
385832 2005-09-05 18:16:00 It seems more sensible that if you have a 4 port router and two computers, add each computer to the router via its own straight through cable.

Flashing the BIOS to me is a last-resort thing (i.e. you do it as a last resort)

One practical issue with that (apart from not actually wanting the second system to have Internet access) is that getting back under our house to replace the crossover cable with a straight through one is a last resort - it's not a job I care to repeat in a hurry :yuck:

I tend to agree with you about the flashing, unless an update specifically fixes a known problem. It seems to me my problem is more likely Windows XP related, rather than hardware related.
SteveH (8822)
385833 2005-09-05 18:21:00 . . . I've not had much luck with the bridging method mentioned above but I have had resonable success with Internet Connection Sharing (sad but true) . . .



Thanks . Is there any way to prevent the second PC having access to the Internet if I try using Internet Connection Sharing, or (as the name suggests!) is that impossible with ICS?
SteveH (8822)
385834 2005-09-05 18:49:00 If you're using WinXP, rightclick one of the network connections and select 'Bridge'. That will allow you to 'connect' the two interfaces and leave you with only one IP for the machine. You should then have seamless connectivity. :)
Would bridging open up Internet access for the second PC (which I don't want :( )?
SteveH (8822)
385835 2005-09-05 20:26:00 Would bridging open up Internet access for the second PC (which I don't want :( )?

Essentially, yes. Have a look at your router features and see if you can block routing action on an ip basis; you may be able to limit who has internet connectivity there.
wuppo (41)
385836 2005-09-05 21:29:00 I'm not 100% clued up on this idea, but I know it is possible:

There is a way to do what you want to do... have one computer hooked up online with an IP address, and have another computer with another ip address behind it that can access online when it wants to, but is seen by the outside world as the first computer.

I can't remember what the term for it is though or how to set it up exactly. But I think it is configured within the router, not the frontline computer.
Hopefully one ofthe others can help you.
Myth (110)
385837 2005-09-06 02:15:00 Try plugging the second PC into the router . The router might have autodetect (or have a switchable socket -- look for a slide switch with "X" on one position) and be able to compensate for the crossover cable . If it won't, you can get a crossover adapter for a reasonable price . You can certainly configure the router so that the second PC won't have any access to the Internet .

Do you need Gigabit rate between the computers? How often do you want to be online and connected to the other computer simultaneously . Surely if you want a gigabit LAN for the speed in games, your looking at Web sites (for the cheats? :D) is going to increase your (human) latency . :cool:

I'm sure there's a way to use both the interfaces at once . . . but it seems that the Windows experts haven't come up with it . So what chance have we non-Windows experts? :D

ICS is intended to share Internet access . That's why it's called Internet Sharing Connection . ;)

Tazz is thinking of NAT . Which is already installed .
Graham L (2)
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