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386763 2005-09-06 16:32:00 is there any way to preserve my windows logon screen and still be able to use the novell client? i really don't want to give up my old logon screen, but i still want to be able to access my school's network resources.

im running windows XP SP2. i plan to download the lastest client if there's a way to do the above.
Dasenden (8848)
386764 2005-09-06 19:25:00 Have you tried going into Network Properties and checking to be sure your Primary Network Logon is "Client for Microsoft Networks"
hth
johnboy (217)
386765 2005-09-06 20:29:00 Johnboy suggestion would work but........................
because you are not using the novell client as primary login you would proberly lose the servces provided by that client

ones that come to mind are

mapping of network drives
workstation magement by NDS
any other services that maybe setup on login ie NAL (Novell Application Laucher)
Email (pegasus mail uses maped drives for mail storage if being used)
access to private, public printers or print queues ( Novell version has a bearing here)
Group membership therefore permissions to areas on the network

I would talk to your network admin

I'll test it today and get back to you

you dont metion if xp version is it home or pro, I would not advise puting home on a novell network but it can be done
beama (111)
386766 2005-09-06 21:19:00 I was wrong, It seems that once installed the novell client takes over but it will coexsist with the Microsoft client ie allow microsoft services such as workgroups within a novell enviroment

I repeat my advice earlier Talk to your Network admin

Another question I would like to ask, What Virus checker are you using and what client version are you installin?, because there are some issues with one version of the novell client and a particular virus checker.
beama (111)
386767 2005-09-06 23:42:00 lol i once installed novell because it is the program my school uses... i successfully connected to my school server but my comp was so buggy i just uninstalled novell (its a pain to uninstall, and lol iw asnt connecting to the school server for positive reasons, lol the comp tech hated me after that school year) anyways as i was saying novell didnt mix well and it completely takes over windows log on CorbinH (37)
386768 2005-09-07 00:02:00 lol i once installed novell because it is the program my school uses... i successfully connected to my school server but my comp was so buggy i just uninstalled novell (its a pain to uninstall, and lol iw asnt connecting to the school server for positive reasons, lol the comp tech hated me after that school year) anyways as i was saying novell didnt mix well and it completely takes over windows log on

that'll teach you its good network enviroment, as for buggy , never had any problems with it and Ive worked with it for 5 years in fact Novell even said I could (CNA)
beama (111)
386769 2005-09-07 04:59:00 "(cna)" whats that mean??? and when i said buggy i ment it slowed down my comp which i think cuz my schools network is horrendusly slow had part to do with it... overal i like novell and i think its very secure... that is if the person setting it up knows what there doing unlike my schools comp person (i wasnt supposed to be able to access the network from my house... i was on a teacher's account too lol) CorbinH (37)
386770 2005-09-07 06:49:00 I agree, a poorly setup network can cause a lot of problems no matter what network enviroment you use.

CNA (www.novell.com) (not to be confused with CCNA, CISCO certification) is a Novell Certification a bit like MCP which is a Microsoft Certification.
beama (111)
386771 2005-09-07 16:02:00 im tryin to keep the network admin out of it, since he's a paranoid old guy and the thought of a non-school computer connecting to the network would give him a heart-attack. i am friends with my schools sysop who can give me the information i need to configure the client, he just doesn't know how to force it to function as the secondary logon.

im running xp pro SP2. i have norton '02 for virus scan and firewall (old, i know. i plan to upgrade soon).

is it possible that novell designed its software to be so annoying, to prevent customers from trying to use competitors software? i guess thats not important, but its an interesting thought.

i just want to be able to have the network recognize me so i can connect to the internet through my own computer (access is blocked until you log in through novell). i might try setting up a proxy server, but i probably couldn't connect to that without logging on first anyway. i dont need the network drives, though it would be a plus.
Dasenden (8848)
386772 2005-09-07 20:12:00 im tryin to keep the network admin out of it, since he's a paranoid old guy and the thought of a non-school computer connecting to the network would give him a heart-attack. .

If your network admin has his security setup correctly he will know the instant the laptop is pluged into the network. We do, the network operating system will send him a alert ( ours is set up to do this) . Novell registers MAC address's and if any are not known a adminstrative alert is generated and the event is logged.

One of the reasons the admin is paranoid, he knows nothing about the setup of the pc connecting ie virus checker status, patch status, programs installed on the laptop and so list go on.

System admins have very good reasons for being paranoid. One infected machine could cause a lot of down time for a lot of other users espically if the virus propergates through the network.

Personally, I like to know what hardware is connected to the network I administer.
My advice stands Im afraid.
Ive seen the results of want you are suggesting and had to fix them.
beama (111)
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