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392564 2005-10-01 04:43:00 I own one of those cheap Warehouse Dells (sob), with tacky integrated audio, (SoundMAX Integrated Digital Audio.) Using WindowsXP is there anyway that I can increase the amount of RAM allocated to the audio? I know I have a few megs to spare as I upgraded to 768mb a few months ago.

Thanks.
lewisc (7929)
392565 2005-10-01 05:00:00 Intergrated audio merely hands the work over to the cpu, which hits performance, they don't have ram allocated to them as such. And this performance hit is usually only evident when playing games.

If your playing games on a Warehouse Dell then your really barking up the wrong tree...

What exactly is your system doing that you think can be attributed to the intergrated audio?
Metla (12)
392566 2005-10-01 07:52:00 I own one of those cheap Warehouse Dells (sob), with tacky integrated audio, (SoundMAX Integrated Digital Audio.) Using WindowsXP is there anyway that I can increase the amount of RAM allocated to the audio? I know I have a few megs to spare as I upgraded to 768mb a few months ago.

Thanks.
Thats not a major worry. My sound card developed a fault so now I have reverted to onboard sound (its not a bad MB though). I'll wait for the new range of Creative cards before replacing it. I don't have any issues with games...

If you are worried about games, the lack of graphics in the PC, possibly its CPU and more than likely the low amount of ram will be far more important.
pctek (84)
392567 2005-10-01 11:21:00 A crappy motherboard won't help the peformance either.....right across the ...uh....board... Metla (12)
392568 2005-10-01 23:26:00 I was just hoping I could increase the performance while playing games, I didn't think it was worth buying a sound card, but I'm sick of my computer running so slowly when it comes to sound. And yes I know it's sound because turning down the quality makes it stuff up so much less!

For example, I'm playing BattleField Vietnam, and maybe once every 10 times, if I'm flying in a jet while listening to the ingame radio, shooting, getting shot at and sending a backup request, the game will freeze and only come back when the sound has stopped. Sometimes the whole game crashes. I turn down the audio quality and presto, it runs smoothly again.

And about the dell coment, I have a new graphics card, new ram and a second hard drive. It loads games faster than my friends $2000 pc and crashes less often in about 80% of applications, boots at about 5 times the speed and just handles everything more smoothly. (His problems aren't caused by software either, he formatted and re-installed key apps only, still took friggen ages to boot.)

Plus I've been saving all my spare cash for buying parts for a dual-booting Linux/Vista pc next year
lewisc (7929)
392569 2005-10-02 00:25:00 Suggest you tell hm to install his motherboard drivers.

Anyhow, The audio is loading up the cpu, a sound card is your only option.

http://www.ihatedell.net/
Metla (12)
392570 2005-10-02 01:12:00 I was just hoping I could increase the performance while playing games, I didn't think it was worth buying a sound card, but I'm sick of my computer running so slowly when it comes to sound. And yes I know it's sound because turning down the quality makes it stuff up so much less!

For example, I'm playing BattleField Vietnam, and maybe once every 10 times, if I'm flying in a jet while listening to the ingame radio, shooting, getting shot at and sending a backup request, the game will freeze and only come back when the sound has stopped. Sometimes the whole game crashes. I turn down the audio quality and presto, it runs smoothly again.

And about the dell coment, I have a new graphics card, new ram and a second hard drive. It loads games faster than my friends $2000 pc and crashes less often in about 80% of applications, boots at about 5 times the speed and just handles everything more smoothly. (His problems aren't caused by software either, he formatted and re-installed key apps only, still took friggen ages to boot.)

Plus I've been saving all my spare cash for buying parts for a dual-booting Linux/Vista pc next year


Ok you are definately barking up the wrong tree.

This is paging as it loads voices and sounds. Install more system ram will resolve this. It isn't really anything to do with your sound card, although it may appear that way.

The exact same problem occurs with Battlefield 2 (the latest version in the BF series).

I am not sure about Battlefield Vietnam to be honest as I hated it, but BF2 requires over 1 gig of ram (more than 1 gig 1.5- 2 etc) to solve this.
Its crappy programming in my opinion but I would nearly stake my life on it this is the problem, very well know. I also recal Battlefield Vietnam ran like dog bollocks when I did try it, and I am fairly sure I only had 512MB at the time.

BTW run a defrag, MAY help a bit.
Battleneter (60)
392571 2005-10-02 01:19:00 Gonna disagree with you there, the worst of the intergrated audio chipsets can load up as much as 30 to 40 percent onto the cpu, espcially when asked to playback multiple audio files at the same time.

Causing instant ja-ja-ja-jam, My money is on an audio card sorting out the issue perfectly.

Hopefully the thread starter will report back if he fixes it, and we will see if I can keepy money
Metla (12)
392572 2005-10-02 01:30:00 LOL most games don't need a tweak guide but...

Have a good read of this tweak guide for BFV, having a quick read myself, looks like all the same issues as with Battlefield 2, so I believe Battledfield 2 is probably just a evolution of the same crappy game engine. 512MB minimum(key word minimum). As with BF2 I am guess over 1 gig, you may need to read the forums further.

www.tweakguides.com


"A lack of RAM and sub-optimal virtual memory settings, especially when combined with overclocked memory (and/or aggressive RAM timings), can lead to lots of small in-game loading pauses, longer loading times and memory conflicts leading to freezes, crashes to desktop, and even sudden reboots."
Battleneter (60)
392573 2005-10-02 01:43:00 Gonna disagree with you there, the worst of the intergrated audio chipsets can load up as much as 30 to 40 percent onto the cpu, espcially when asked to playback multiple audio files at the same time .

Causing instant ja-ja-ja-jam, My money is on an audio card sorting out the issue perfectly .

Hopefully the thread starter will report back if he fixes it, and we will see if I can keepy money

Yep your wrong sorry, you are 100% right 10 years ago .

I am only using OB sound, If I open up media Player and play a wav file "without the visulations" my CPU usage is below 5% in fact basically doesn't move . Not exactly scientific I know, but it proves a basic point . I think your out of touch with the technology on this one .

BTW if O/B sound took up say 40% 10 years ago of a CPU, do you have any idea how much faster CPU processing time is now? do the math .

Have a quick look at this, to calculate a Pie to the place of . . . takes some of the fastest home PC's now 33 seconds where some of the older 486's etc 18 days+ . My point is CPU's barely notice this load now, not even slightly .

. hexus . net/pifast . php" target="_blank">pifast . hexus . net

Regardless of this side argument, I know I am right with Battlefield Vietnam, have a quick "google", there seems to be a lot of people with this issue (just like Battlefield 2) .
Battleneter (60)
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