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Thread ID: 62301	2005-10-03 23:00:00	Athlon 64 or Pentium 4?	zahmad (8963)	Press F1

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393117	2005-10-05 21:05:00	Prescott yes, northwood probably about the same. No No Northwood is a fair bit hotter than AMD 64 as well, but at least Northwood doesn't throttle like High end Prescott's under factory cooling.	Battleneter (60)
393118	2005-10-05 21:22:00	Im pretty sure stupidity runs rampant in the computer industry, i know some machine builders who only use Intel and whose knowledge is restricted to Intel marketing, they are also normally under the impression that a Nvidia card is "the wicked" irrelevant of the model and are bunging FX5200 into gaming machines as fast as they can, but only because they can no longer source "teh awesome" G4MX. I also know of a shop that refuses to sell PSU's,they have there reasons, and they equate to sheer dick-headness. Anyhow, sounds like you had some faulty gear, it should have been fixed under warrenty before it died. Yep I see people like this too, nearly every day. A true Enthusiast/good techy seeks the best product and does not religiously favour one brand ie Intel/AMD or Nvidia/ATI. The reality is, these company's do take the lead back and forth, and whats best or best value WHEN you need to buy is what is important. I am sure Intel are working hard on there next generations of chips and I would expect them to regain the lead, but for now its AMD. A great example of this just happened with ATI just regaining the performance crown back of Nvidia with the release of there X1800XT in the last few days.	Battleneter (60)
393119	2005-10-06 19:58:00	Anyone else?	zahmad (8963)
393120	2005-10-07 00:13:00	i had an Athlon chip, and it fried my motherboard... Athlon is the one to get for Gaming, but you have to make sure that you have plently of ventilation and fans. When i was going around and looking for a motherboard and CPU, the shops said to go to Pentium 4, since i wasn't willing to pay $1000 to set the box up to be able to cool it down properly so i didn't have a repeat experience. A few of the shops refused to stock AMD and would only order it up if the customers wanted it, but AMD is the one to go if you're big on gaming. It's up to your personal preference i guess. I've never had any problems until i went to Athlon (my computer never functioned properly, and it would heat up instantly no matter how many fans i put it so it ended up frying itself), so i'd choose the Pentium over Athlon. How does a CPU fry your board? Rubbish. And you don't need $1000 for cooling, I've put tons of AMDs of various sorts in all sorts of cases with and without case fans and with and without the stock cooler. Never had one go over 50 degrees.	pctek (84)
393121	2005-10-14 03:08:00	How does a CPU fry your board? Rubbish. And you don't need $1000 for cooling, I've put tons of AMDs of various sorts in all sorts of cases with and without case fans and with and without the stock cooler. Never had one go over 50 degrees. Dam straight ... If you want the best bang for buck scenario get yourself a AMD64 (socket 939) 3000+ (stock multi of 9x :P) venice Core (dont get a winchester ... lower O'Cin ceiling!) OEM version (as you wont be using the stock HSF). With preferbly a DFI LanParty UT NF4 Ultra-D mobo, 500W+ PSU again preferbly an enermax noistaker, a 1GB D/C RAM kit using Samsung TCCD chips for posting 300HTT :P @ CL 2.5-4-4-7 (1T). Run your cpu @ 2.7GHz (300x9) @ 1.6V - will be prime stable at that speed and under full load will post between 35~40 C if you use a kick ass zalman flower cooler (cnps7700-cu) @ 1250~1500RPM which is pretty much silent :) Total package will cost ya <$1000 ... but u will obviously need a case, monitor and HDD to complete it! Peace out ... Just some words of advice	Sir_Fool (9002)
393122	2005-10-14 03:26:00	Hands down vote for AMD Have owned a Pentium 4 2.8 GHz with a system bus of 533 Mhz. Now own an AMD Athlon 64 FX-55 with the same clock speed but a wide open system bus. Makes a difference if you are running multiple applications.	3cs (9003)
393123	2005-10-15 03:30:00	Ok, thanks. Anyone else want to comment?	zahmad (8963)
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