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396975	2005-10-19 21:20:00	The would be true if I had just pasted in comments from an XP marketing page...... Anyhow, feel free to counter anything I have said (do it properly, links to a Mac promotional page doesn't cut it) I realise I am as one sided as the Mac heads so a balanced view is welcome. My view of the G5 Poorly speced Poor value Poor design Your personal view that "its just great" doesn't hold much water....Im still yet to see a single benifit above the fact that its not targeted by malicious code. The comment I pasted was actually from Paul Thurrotts site and not an Apple site. You are aware who he is I take it. www.windowsitpro.com	Safari (3993)
396976	2005-10-19 22:24:00	I know who he is, Didnt care for him or his work before or after that opinion piece, I don't partulary care for Windows or OSX, my points were price (value for money) specs , performance and design. People may think intergrating the computer into the screen is a nifty idea, I consider it sacrificing pratical thinking for image.I wouldn't touch any system produced by any company with that design Anyhow,A similar specced machine to Plods G5 link, 1 inch smaller screen, better optical drive,better motherboard, better cpu,Better GPU, better performance,better value for money, better price. AMD K8 64bit Athlon 3500 512mb DDR 400 iCute Case w/400 PSU Gigabyte Nforce 4 Motherboard Ge-Cube X700 D3 PCI-E 256MB TVout DVI Lite-on 16x dual Layer DVD-Writer Seagate 250GB 7200.7 S-ATA Philips 190S6FB 19" LCD $2450 Well, that still leaves a good $1000 difference if you wanted to buy a 20" lcd, if you remove the 19" lCD that frees up another $600 for that extra inch.	Metla (12)
396977	2005-10-20 00:26:00	the 2 gig of ram is when yiu max it out to 2.5 gig only having two slots. you can put in two 1gig sticks at a fraction of the cost if you bothered to read my postUm.. not true plod. The *old* iMac G5s had 2 ram slots, with a max of 1 GB per slot. The new ones have 512 of not removable ram and 1 ram slot that can accept a max of a 2GB stick of ram. so you can't use a new iMac G5 with 2x1GB ram sticks. -Qyiet	qyiet (6730)
396978	2005-10-20 00:32:00	... People may think intergrating the computer into the screen is a nifty idea, I consider it sacrificing pratical thinking for image.I wouldn't touch any system produced by any company with that design ... *blink* ... like say any laptop or tablet PC manufacturer ever? edit: sorry, I think I misread that.. I thought you ment you would not touch a system made by a company that had made, at some time or other, a computer that was intergrated into the screen. -Qyiet	qyiet (6730)
396979	2005-10-20 00:37:00	The exception being laptops.....	Metla (12)
396980	2005-10-20 00:38:00	The exception being laptops.....Apologies, see the edit above. -Qyiet	qyiet (6730)
396981	2005-10-20 00:52:00	Anyhow,A similar specced machine to Plods G5 link, 1 inch smaller screen, better optical drive,better motherboard, better cpu,Better GPU, better performance,better value for money, better price. AMD K8 64bit Athlon 3500 512mb DDR 400 iCute Case w/400 PSU Gigabyte Nforce 4 Motherboard Ge-Cube X700 D3 PCI-E 256MB TVout DVI Lite-on 16x dual Layer DVD-Writer Seagate 250GB 7200.7 S-ATA Philips 190S6FB 19" LCD $2450 Well, that still leaves a good $1000 difference if you wanted to buy a 20" lcd, if you remove the 19" lCD that frees up another $600 for that extra inch. Your video card is still on the hevey side, you need to add: a 640x480 webcam (the motorised one I used was a abit over the top), a IR remote (I don't know where you would look for this on it's own) a couple of firewire ports wireless lan bluetooth. if you want a phillips screen with the same res as the G5 try the 20" WSXGA LCD widescreen monitor 200W6CS/00 Philips site won't link directly (sorry) -Qyiet	qyiet (6730)
396982	2005-10-20 01:55:00	Right, You have managed to configure your "twice as fast PC" to run slower then a minimac and you think to give me stick?...ROFLMA. Once again you wear your ignorance as a badge of honour ;) The actualy CPU speed cannot be compared that simply, nor can the amount of RAM, so we're not comparing apples to apples. My new Mac Mini doesn't have the same amount of crap that windows has, therefore it doesn't require the same speed or RAM to outperform my Shuttle. It is also cooler, quieter amd smaller that the Shuttle (which was already small, quiet and small in the first place. Is anyone else concerned that 90% of consumers are conned by salemen to think that speed is the be all and end all? Your typical home user (who doesn't want to play games) really only needs a computer around the 1ghz mark - but as a salesman Metla will ridicule that idea. You should either experience a Mac for yourself or accept that you're not qualified to comment in this thread. Please stop this childish "mine is better that yours" attitude. They're both great for different reasons.	Standing_Amazed (7841)
396983	2005-10-20 02:03:00	Once again you wear your ignorance as a badge of honour ;) The actualy CPU speed cannot be compared that simply, nor can the amount of RAM, so we're not comparing apples to apples . My new Mac Mini doesn't have the same amount of crap that windows has, therefore it doesn't require the same speed or RAM to outperform my Shuttle . It is also cooler, quieter amd smaller that the Shuttle (which was already small, quiet and small in the first place . Is anyone else concerned that 90% of consumers are conned by salemen to think that speed is the be all and end all? Your typical home user (who doesn't want to play games) really only needs a computer around the 1ghz mark - but as a salesman Metla will ridicule that idea . You should either experience a Mac for yourself or accept that you're not qualified to comment in this thread . Please stop this childish "mine is better that yours" attitude . They're both great for different reasons . Can I call you an idiot? You sir are an idiot . I am well aware of the performance of the CPU's and the overall systems, that is without any consideration of the clockspeed . Nor do I or have I ever sold any CPU based on its clockspeed alone . If you need any advice on how to configure your shuttle then just ask .	Metla (12)
396984	2005-10-20 02:13:00	Can I call you an idiot? You sir are an idiot. Mav vs PC threads. God vs non-God threads. Reactionary red-necks vs tree-hugging lefty threads. They all seem to bring out the worst in people. As a benign deity (hey, I spelt it right!), it saddens me to see how you humans squabble and fight over these non-important issues. I suggest you stop slagging each other off and focus on the important things in life, like smelling the flowers, helping old ladies across the road, and handing over 20% of your income to the Church of the Ultimate Elected Deity so they can build me a really groovy mansio .... ah, I mean cathedral, on the shore front overlooking lake Wanaka. It shall be done.	Biggles (121)
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