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396935	2005-10-18 00:45:00	Calm down Graham- it is not a slanging match, it is a discussion on a forum where peoples opinions are shared. "What people use first will usually be their preference" Not true. They use what is thrust in front of them. For eg people don't use IE because it is their preference, it is because they are not aware of any other alternatives and it is only through forums like this that they are made aware of other programs or systems which can make their computer experience more enjoyable. Symmigy has a mind of his own, he is aware he is not obliged to change, he was wanting some opinions and information on whether he should change. Discussions about other operating systems and programs can be very helpful for a lot of people and makes them think about what they are using and whether alternatives are viable for them.	Safari (3993)
396936	2005-10-18 01:12:00	Discussions of the relative "merits" of Apple and Microsoft OSs are a waste of time. As I said, the OSs are different. End of discussion. Or it should be. If carried on, they frequently degenerate to ad hominem attacks on the proponents of the "other" OS. What are you talking about? "I like X because it's faster"/"I don't like X because it's slower"/ "X doesn't do Y" / "Yes it does"/ "No it doesn't"/ "Does"/ "Doesn't" ... I am firmly of the opinion that those who start their computing with Apple Macs usually find the Mac user interface easiest. Those who start with MS will usually find that easiest. It's not easy or intuitive to switch between the two. I started using computers before either, but I find MS (marginally) easier to use because CP/M-DOS was copied from OSs which I was familiar with. But "a plague on both their houses". ;) Browsers and other applications can often be be fruitful subjects of discussion. But even then, the "discussions" too often become more like religious wars than a rational presentation of facts.	Graham L (2)
396937	2005-10-18 01:24:00	easy[/b] or intuitive to switch between the two. . Thats nonsense Graham, can't agree with that. I use both Macs and Windows and have no trouble switching between the two as does my daughter who easily uses both. Most of the Mac users on this forum are also regular users of Windows systems. I know dozens of other people who use both and have no problem using either system	Safari (3993)
396938	2005-10-18 01:34:00	Did you miss the word "usually"? It doesn't apply to you, so it can't apply to anyone, so must be "nonsense"? By the way, the vast majority of computer "users" are not regular denizens of this or any other computer forum? I'll do a C . B . here, and "unsubscribe" from this thread .	Graham L (2)
396939	2005-10-18 04:26:00	I'm hoping either Metla or one of the other pc builders in the forum would instead of rattling off stuff like it's overpriced and that sort of carry on, could take a little bit of time to carry out a small exercise for me 1)price up a shuttle pc (no mouse, keyboard, or monitor)with similar specs to the superdrive macmini link is here (www.apple.co.nz) , the pc should be 32bit running xp home 2) the same as above, but with imac either the 17 inch or 20 inch, link here (www.apple.co.nz) ,this should be 64bit processor with either xp pro or xp 64bit, and including monitor keyboard and mouse. The prices need to be for somebody that walks off the street and not for yourself or a mate.. I am genuinely curious, thanks if I get any replys	plod (107)
396940	2005-10-18 05:26:00	Plod's link should convince just about anyone not to buy a Mac. It may be that I am actually scared of a Mac. I can deal with almost any PC including Laptops when it comes to upgrading. I don't wish to get anywhere close to a Mac in case I get infected. Buy a Mac. They never go wrong do they? Well if you want a Mac go buy one. It is your money after all.	Elephant (599)
396941	2005-10-18 05:41:00	I'm hoping either Metla or one of the other pc builders in the forum would instead of rattling off stuff like it's overpriced and that sort of carry on, could take a little bit of time to carry out a small exercise for me 1)price up a shuttle pc (no mouse, keyboard, or monitor)with similar specs to the superdrive macmini link is here ( . apple . co . nz/hardware/macmini/techspecs . php" target="_blank">www . apple . co . nz) , the pc should be 32bit running xp home 2) the same as above, but with imac either the 17 inch or 20 inch, link here ( . apple . co . nz/hardware/imac/techspecs . php" target="_blank">www . apple . co . nz) ,this should be 64bit processor with either xp pro or xp 64bit, and including monitor keyboard and mouse . The prices need to be for somebody that walks off the street and not for yourself or a mate . . I am genuinely curious, thanks if I get any replys No,go do your own research, No trained seals here, And if your unable to do the groundwrk then your just as unable to aprciate the results . Besides, there aren't any new systems avaolable as underpowered as the minimac . . . . . But here is a start . . computermedic . co . nz/items . php?item_id=640" target="_blank">www . computermedic . co . nz	Metla (12)
396942	2005-10-18 05:58:00	No,go do your own research, No trained seals here, And if your unable to do the groundwrk then your just as unable to aprciate the results.Besides, there aren't any new systems avaolable as underpowered as the minimac..... But here is a start. www.computermedic.co.nz 20inch Imac looks a bargain comparing it to your link similar speed processors, I can't see how your argument stands any more after posting that link? P.S.. I think the manufacturer link is broken because it keeps going back to the assemblers webpage	plod (107)
396943	2005-10-18 06:19:00	Symmigy has a mind of his own, he is aware he is not obliged to change, he was wanting some opinions and information on whether he should change. Discussions about other operating systems and programs can be very helpful for a lot of people and makes them think about what they are using and whether alternatives are viable for them. How do we know whether this person is Male or Female? Are you assuming? My main point is whether the change is viable. There is no reason to change anything unless the change will give an advantage. Personally I see no reason to change from WipXPPro SP2. It works for me. That is the main point, If it works then do not fix it. There again. If there is a perceived advantage then there may be a need to change.	Elephant (599)
396944	2005-10-18 06:21:00	maybe because he made it? :illogical Anyway, does the iMac have 2gb of RAM? What about 400gb of hard drive? 5.1 speakers? How about a top of the line graphics card with 256mb of ram? 5 button scroll mouse? No? I'm sorry, I'm failing to see the "bargain" element	Edward (31)
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