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396905 2005-10-16 23:23:00 Just remember we haven't heard from the Mac-heads yet.... Metla (12)
396906 2005-10-17 00:17:00 /me smacks head on wall

why must we go through this again?

Anyway, there's nothing special about a mac other than "security" which justifies the large price
Edward (31)
396907 2005-10-17 00:50:00 Upsides for me:

Malware . . Macs are technically a bit less vunerable than windows, but much more obscure, so are much less targeted .

The other trick is the "pretty" factor . In my opinion not so much for the OS X . But for the box itself . I'm considering getting a mac mini as my next PC, mostly because it's tiny, will surf the web and play WoW .

This is a frontroom PC, and I realise I could have a much bigger/noiser PC which would do the same thing for approx 1/2 the price . But it would be better suited for the office than the front room .

Downsides I don't think people have mentioned yet:

Compatability:
Some stuff just dosn't work with macs . This is not apple's fault, just some hardware never had drivers created, and some software cannot be aquired . Small market, lots of work to make it happen . Some manufactures just don't care . (Autodesk, I'm looking at you)

Relearn time:
If you are happy with how stuff works on a WinXP and feel you know your way around, be aware that you will be dropped back in newbie land when you start to use a new OS . .

-Qyiet
qyiet (6730)
396908 2005-10-17 00:52:00 I have seen some of my photoshop files opened on a kick-arse mac in a print shop, I created the files in photoshop on a PC, they opened them up in the same version of photoshop but on a mac, not only did my PC open the 100+Mb files faster but rendering another background on my PC takes around 30seconds to 2+minutes on the mac.

And if you are just a general user you will get better value for money out of a PC.

As Metla has suggested if you add NOD32 you will have no security issues either.
Rob99 (151)
396909 2005-10-17 01:00:00 The other trick is the "pretty" factor. In my opinion not so much for the OS X. But for the box itself. I'm considering getting a mac mini as my next PC, mostly because it's tiny, will surf the web and play WoW.

But then again you can always get a Shuttle pc which still has the ability to be customised in the same way any PC can, yet still retain the modern sound system look :cool:
Edward (31)
396910 2005-10-17 01:12:00 You could look at it this way- a Mac is the Audi of the computer world, it's got a nice badge, just made with VW parts :D

Rob99 is right, there is NOTHING that a Mac can do better than a PC, it's just how you look while you do it that matters.
Shortcircuit (1666)
396911 2005-10-17 01:30:00 But then again you can always get a Shuttle pc which still has the ability to be customised in the same way any PC can, yet still retain the modern sound system look :cool:Yeah I know, but by the time I do that I have lost the price advantage, and the shuttles are still twice the size .

Mind you the sort of shuttle I would build up would be a whole lot gruntier than a mini :) edit: and cost more than twice as much as a mini . . once I start with building my own, I have trouble stopping :p

-Qyiet
qyiet (6730)
396912 2005-10-17 01:40:00 I think it all boils down to this............

If you're a Mac enthusiast, get a Mac.

If not, get a PC.

Have a play on the macs your rellies have got, see if you like it, if you're blown away by the wonders of it, then you will be a mac enthusiast, so the decision will be easy.
mark c (247)
396913 2005-10-17 03:15:00 Waiting to hear what the rellies say is so much better. Cicero (40)
396914 2005-10-17 05:46:00 From someone who has a jaded view of both (yep I support both and to be honest I don't care what someone uses).

The mac - Pros:

- Virus/Spyware free - completely negated if you know what you are doing with Windows
- OS X allows you to easily install stuff as packages (or you just copy the app to whether you like, no dll hell etc). No registry stuff.
- More attractive gui (??)
- UNIX tools available
- Software/hardware is under tight control by Apple, so fixing problems shouldn't be hard.

The mac - Cons:

- They aren't cheap and you really need to spend more to buy Applecare (i.e. extend the piddly 1 year warranty to 3 years). Having said that gettting stuff repaired isn't an issue (as long as you are near a Applecare repair outfit).
- The users can spend loads of time getting their mac to play nice with PCs (much better these days)
- Some of their designs annoy me e.g. one memory slot in a mini mac.
- Using OS X and fixing problems is very different from Windows.
- The printing system (CUPS) can be niggly.
- Apple's marketing dept. spreads a lot of FUD.
- Not a gaming platform

I won't go into the Pro and Cons of Windows/PC too much.
The PowerPC Processor hasn't been improving much as late, Athlon 64s will easily beat Macs. Just about all hardware will have drivers for Windows.

Wait and see what happens when OS X on Intel based macs goes mainstream. I'd myself, just like to see Apple not bringing out new operating systems so often.

To sum up: PCs and Macs are just different :)
Try not to be a zealot, as you will bore people to death ...
gibler (49)
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