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| Thread ID: 62682 | 2005-10-15 11:28:00 | Playing with IDE Ribbons. | Newteach (4990) | Press F1 |
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| 396625 | 2005-10-15 11:28:00 | I'm a chronic fiddler, I decided that I would rebuild my daughters old windows 98 machine from 3 old computers in an effort to learn something. I have managed to get WinXP all up and running, (legal copy), but I am having problems with the sound card, CD Rom IDE Ribbon setup. The hard drive, (master) has a ribbon running into the CD-Rom and from the CD-rom the same ribbon goes into the Primary IDE Plug on the Motherboard. The Creative Technologies Sound Card has provision for it to be connected to the CD-Rom but when I connect the CD-Rom to the Sound card I seem to loose the CD-Rom drive in 'My Computer' after booting and still have no sound card working. Hopefully someone out there may be able to answer some questions. 1) When connecting the CD-Rom to the Sound card should I have a 3-way connecter also connecting the two to the Secondary IDE plug or just the CD-Rom and the Sound Card ? 2) What jumper setting should I use, on the CD-Rom, is the Cable select a good Idea when I'm not sure ? 3) Should my hard drive be connected normally to a different IDE connection than my normal hard drive to make allowances for the CD-rom setup ? 4) Is building your own PC to hard for someone to do from scratch using info from the net ? 5) Is there anyone out there that could recommend a good pc building site ? 6) Is there anyone out there that could use a new friend on MSN lmao... 7) Is 9 questions too much to ask on here in one posting....? 8) How do you folks learn more about these things...? 9)Cant think of a number 9 is that o.k...(oh that is a question ) I am having fun pulling Computers apart and putting them back together so please don't tell me to just forget it, I'd really appreciate positive answers. Thanks...NewTeach. |
Newteach (4990) | ||
| 396626 | 2005-10-15 14:25:00 | Hmm... I sure as hell ain't no expert when it comes to things lke this, but as far as I know, when connecting the CD-ROM drive it only needs to be connected to the mother board, and it shouldnt matter if its on the same IDE as the HDD. The connection to the sound card is only needed if the CD-ROM drive is only being used as a music CD player, not a drive. The sound card usually just plugs straight into a PCI slot on the mobo. Hope this helps, sorry if I'm wrong (which is probable :P) roddy |
roddy_boy (4115) | ||
| 396627 | 2005-10-15 19:13:00 | 1 . Nah connecting a hdd to a soundcard is now ANCIENT . Its better to connect to an IDE port on the mobo . Or get a PCI IDE card, if you want more hdd's/cd's . Didnt you need drivers ages ago, when connecting a hdd to a soundcard?? Or some kind of command in startup, so Windows knew it was there? 2 . Sometimes cable select works . Most of the time, it doesnt . Use Master or Slave . 3 . Hdd's and CD's/DVD's/Burners SHOULD be on different IDE connections . I don't think it'll matter with a normal CD . (If it isnt a cd or dvd burner) . BUT it'll definitely matter if u put a cd or dvd burner, on the same IDE as a hdd . Due to different speeds . You may have probs / make coasters . Putting 2 IDE hdd's on the same IDE, is better than putting a cd/dvd and a hdd on the same IDE . 4 . Putting a system together after a while is a piece of cake . One thing you have to be careful of, is static . It's cheaper, (If u have the software already), and it's a good way of finding out, what goes where . And you also have to make sure, you dont short the mobo, when you put it in the case (so it doesnt touch the back of the case, or it'll fry it, when u turn it on)! 5 . Nope . BUT the mobo u get usually comes with a manual . Follw that, you cant go wrong (usually)! 6 . lol . I havent got MSN atm . So, cant help you there . BUT I spose its not that hard to download it and install it . 7 . No . I've seen worse :D 8 . Buying a mobo /parts, and getting to know diff parts of a system . Reading the mobo manual, so I dont screw things up (hopefully)! And because the first system I actually purchased, was a ripoff, I'll never buy another complete system again lol . HTH :) |
Speedy Gonzales (78) | ||
| 396628 | 2005-10-15 20:23:00 | you could try the Toms Hardware guide, it has pictures :D and might give you a few pointers . . tomshardware . com/howto/20020918/index . html" target="_blank">www . tomshardware . com Sounds like you're doing ok for a 1st attempt . . . it can just be a bit of a steep learning curve, especially when something doesn't want to work . I say the best way is trial and error . . . you'll learn more from your mistakes than if you get someone else to do it for you, at least I did! |
Shortcircuit (1666) | ||
| 396629 | 2005-10-15 21:32:00 | We need a place for people to donate their old hardware for anyone who wants to learn more about computers to play round with. I've got a friend that loves playing round with the hardware, but hates messing round with software & the only reason he is even remotely interested in computers today is because me & a few of my friends always give him out old hardware (which is usually well & truely obsolete when we get rid of it). | Greven (91) | ||
| 396630 | 2005-10-15 22:00:00 | Thanx people, I love all this advice, and reassurance keep sending it, I just have to convince the missus that having all these screws and computer bits all over her new coffee table is a good Idea. | Newteach (4990) | ||
| 396631 | 2005-10-15 22:52:00 | Just tell her it's far better that you dismantle a computer on the new coffee table than a greasy old V8 engine or something.... she'll get the picture pretty quick :D | Shortcircuit (1666) | ||
| 396632 | 2005-10-16 00:35:00 | A Creative sound card with an interface for a CD is a trap. It looks like an IDE connector. It's not. It's the Creative proprietary CD bus. It needs a Panasonic 563B drive (which is a 2X speed drive). A careful look at the drive is rewarding, because instead of a CS/SL/MA jumper block it has a drive select block .. "0,1,2,3". That's right, you can put 4 drives on one interface. :D Creative used to package a small standalone interface card with the drives, in case people didn't have a (Creative) sound card. There were a number of proprietary, non IDE, systems made ... Mitsumi...? I forget... I had a card once (from PC General) which would work for any of four such. |
Graham L (2) | ||
| 396633 | 2005-10-16 03:12:00 | I've got a friend that loves playing round with the hardware, but hates messing round with software Unfortunately hardware without at least an O/S on it is just a big paperweight. And an O/S is software. |
pctek (84) | ||
| 396634 | 2005-10-16 03:54:00 | But if the hardware has a switch register, who needs an OS? :D | Graham L (2) | ||
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