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Thread ID: 137499	2014-07-15 21:21:00	Bet This Doesn't Get Much Coverage!	B.M. (505)	PC World Chat

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1379303	2014-07-15 21:21:00	Global temperatures: January 1979-June 2014 The latest global average temperatures of the troposphere – those observed from National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration satellites – are computed by the University of Alabama at Huntsville in the United States. Of significance there appears to be very little change in the overall global temperatures during the last 15 years. Full article HERE (www.sunlive.co.nz)	B.M. (505)
1379304	2014-07-15 21:48:00	The trouble with statistics like those is they get interpreted differently depending on the beliefs of the person looking at them. I'd have said 12 years not 15 just looking at the graph but either way that's less than a blip on the scale of planetary climate trends. I'm not a big believer in humans ability to significantly alter the climate in general, although the cumulative effect of centuries of clearing forests and industrial operations probably has made some difference. In any case to me that graph shows a gradual upwards trend over the last 35 years, still too short to be significant. They seem to contradict themselves the chart shows since 1979, when reliable satellite observations have been available, there has been little overall trend. However, that's except for a small warming trend from the average temperatures during the 30-year period from 1981-2010 in the temperatures in troposphere, apart from ‘normally expected' variations - See more at: www.sunlive.co.nz so little over trend except for 30 of the 35 years where there's a trend...... Anyway the climate's going to do whatever it will, even if we can change that it'd take generations of dedicated effort to reverse the trend of an entire planet. Just my 2c, not wanting to join the climate change alarmists just trying to point out the graph means very little.	dugimodo (138)
1379305	2014-07-15 22:17:00	Ocean temperature rise?	Whenu (9358)
1379306	2014-07-15 22:36:00	..... although the cumulative effect of centuries of clearing forests and industrial operations probably has made some difference. Thats something that cant be denied. We have both sides of this argument cherry picking data that suits their belief. Look at the issue of reaserch funding, warming research gets all the funding so thats the data that most often put out there. We also have researchers being caught altering the data, to suit their beleif Compare the amount of forests now, to that of 1000 years ago . factor in all the CO2 we are now pumping into the planet & the lack of tress to soak that CO2 up. Add in climate changes that would have happened if the were no people on earth. Add in CO2 pumped out from volcanic activity . Add in the significant levels of methane being produced in forests from rotting vegetation, the Amazon Forest is a major polluter Makes it all just too hard. I remember, many years back (before global warming was an issue) , serious discussions that we are slowly heading towards the cyclic ice age & serious thought being put into how we will need to heat the planet up !!!!	1101 (13337)
1379307	2014-07-15 22:56:00	that's less than a blip on the scale of planetary climate trends. I'm not a big believer in humans ability to significantly alter the climate in general, although the cumulative effect of centuries of clearing forests and industrial operations probably has made some difference. . +1 People tend to forget there were 5 extinctions (that we can figure out). Not all were just some rock hitting the earth, one in particular had an enormous climate change. It happens, yes we should be less messy but ultimately we have no control over the planet never mind the galaxy.	pctek (84)
1379308	2014-07-15 23:14:00	+1 People tend to forget there were 5 extinctions (that we can figure out). 1 was possibly caused by earth being hit by a gamma ray burst. Particularly nasty . Didnt Krakatoa have a 2+ year effect , causing global un-warming ?	1101 (13337)
1379309	2014-07-15 23:19:00	Temperature varied by ~1 degree over 30 years. Scary... or not... :-/	Chilling_Silence (9)
1379310	2014-07-15 23:32:00	The whole "Climate Change" business always seems to come down to some body playing politics, introducing a new tax, getting a grant to study something or conning money from the gullible public in some way. It has IMHO very little to do with the real world.	CliveM (6007)
1379311	2014-07-16 00:27:00	Temperature varied by ~1 degree over 30 years. Scary... or not... :-/ Well, given that today the temperature in Tauranga will vary 15 degrees C and nobody will find that unusual, I figure there is no need for panic. ;)	B.M. (505)
1379312	2014-07-16 01:21:00	The whole "Climate Change" business always seems to come down to some body playing politics, introducing a new tax, getting a grant to study something or conning money from the gullible public in some way. It has IMHO very little to do with the real world. :+1:	paulw (1826)
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