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Thread ID: 137572	2014-07-22 22:22:00	Must be a Maori Princess ..	B.M. (505)	PC World Chat

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1379888	2014-07-23 23:57:00	You must be kidding. Australia put up a very compelling argument for not adding GST on unprocessed food when they introduced GST fourteen years ago. It has worked well for them and is never likely to change. As for the Conservatives Tax amendment, they are really only rearranging the scaling and you must realise that a single person earning $20,000 with nothing claimable only pays $2520 tax anyway. The CEO’s pocketing over $1,000,000 a year for sweet bugger all could offset that without noticing. :D As for referendums, of course they should be binding. The Government are Public Servants in a Democracy so if we run a Dictatorship then let’s admit it. Nope, not kidding. If you want to show me how we can achieve $3 billion in savings elsewhere, go right ahead. Claiming we could save anywhere near that amount buy cutting a few salaries just isn't going to cut it I'm afraid :rolleyes: Quote from the Conservative Party website 'If for example you were earning $20,000 per year, you’d pay no tax, and be $2520 better off. That’s nearly $50 a week in your back pocket. After that everyone pays a flat tax. Real money in the hands of those that need it and know what to do with it. Letting anyone else spend it is just lunacy.' A flat tax? That's more than rearranging the scaling of the tax system. And dear me, they still haven't said how they're going to pay for this.	Nick G (16709)
1379889	2014-07-23 23:59:00	Well reasoned Nick G :) Ken :thanks Ken :)	Nick G (16709)
1379890	2014-07-24 00:10:00	If you want to show me how we can achieve $3 billion in savings elsewhere, go right ahead. No problem, wipe the Treaty Settlements and Waitangi Tribunal gravy train for a start. ;) Then wipe the other Race Based costs. ;) Job done. :)	B.M. (505)
1379891	2014-07-24 00:11:00	For example - I can get a 3pack of baked beans (Watties) and a loaf of wholemeal bread, from Countdown, for $5.29. Make six servings out of that, with some bread left over - $0.88per serving, plus you have some bread left over. Maybe not the most exciting meal ever, but it does the job, is cheap, and not unhealthy! I know this, but it's these lower socio-economic people who are also not feeding their kids and sending them to school like that (Again, IMO, CYFS should get involved in 100% of those instances, but that's a story for another day). I honestly can't say "Where the money would come from", but I can imagine somebody with Colins business knowledge would have thought it through somewhat. You don't get to be successful by not balancing the books.	Chilling_Silence (9)
1379892	2014-07-24 00:26:00	No problem, wipe the Treaty Settlements and Waitangi Tribunal gravy train for a start. ;) Then wipe the other Race Based costs. ;) Job done. :) And that'll save $3 billion a year? - :tui:	Nick G (16709)
1379893	2014-07-24 00:29:00	I know this, but it's these lower socio-economic people who are also not feeding their kids and sending them to school like that (Again, IMO, CYFS should get involved in 100% of those instances, but that's a story for another day). I honestly can't say "Where the money would come from", but I can imagine somebody with Colins business knowledge would have thought it through somewhat. You don't get to be successful by not balancing the books. I'm aware of that, I just don't think their policies are going to do anything about it. The whole reduced tax rates is really going to help mostly the rich, as they contribute a huge chunk of the tax revenue. The GST? Again, it's just vote buying, it isn't really trying to help the poor. I haven't seen either Colin on Winston say where the money will come from yet. They should put up, or shut up. Neither of those policies are cheap.	Nick G (16709)
1379894	2014-07-24 00:44:00	And that'll save $3 billion a year? - :tui: Then tell us what the shortfall is and I'll fix it. As Chill points out it's just a matter of balancing the books which seems to be little understood these days.	B.M. (505)
1379895	2014-07-24 00:54:00	With that amount of baked beans in your guts, I'll bet that you are a perfect gem to be around :) :)	Zippity (58)
1379896	2014-07-24 00:59:00	With that amount of baked beans in your guts, I'll bet that you are a perfect gem to be around :) :) :o Nah hardly eat any of them actually :D Just trying to point out you don't have to buy a pie to eat for $1.	Nick G (16709)
1379897	2014-07-24 01:07:00	With pleasure :) NZ First - GST off most food items. Conservatives - Binding referendum. First $20,000 tax free then a flat tax. Conservative for me. Flat best method of collecting tax.	Cicero (40)
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