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Thread ID: 137550 2014-07-20 00:16:00 Yep,one of the reasons I can't put a heater on in Dunedin ruup (1827) PC World Chat
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1379639 2014-07-21 00:52:00 Insulation would help,but you do need to pay for it.It does not mitigate the price of power, which is too high. Power should not be treated as a luxury item, in todays world it is a NECESSITY. The ****ing Government's (this one and the last) have used and are using the price power as a form of indirect taxation and then the sods have the audacity to tax you on it. This is simply unjustifiable.

You do need to pay for it but it is a well worth while investment which can save you a lot in the long run. Alternatively you could do as pctek suggested and get a wood burner :thumbs:

Power is definitely a necessity, as is the option to use it wisely so that we don't blow out our power bills - so make sure that your house is well insulated, has no drafts or gaps in the floor boards and uses thick curtains on the windows and you would be surprised at how much heat your house retains.

Alternatively you could get a solar set up, or move out of Dunedin so that you don't have to ***** and complain about the cold that Dunedin is famous for ;)

Govts have to tax people in order to pay for all that "free stuff" that we take for granted - like public hospitals, roads, a basic education, various public services etc etc.

I have a wood burner and I LOVE it :)
Webdevguy (17166)
1379640 2014-07-21 02:16:00 Insulation is no good, after you fire up the heating the insulation stops the cold from getting out :( R2x1 (4628)
1379641 2014-07-21 02:17:00 Radiant heater

- Two-bar heater 56c/hour
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So in reality, maybe $3 per day.....
What an outrage......thats almost a cup of coffee at lunchtime
:rolleyes:

It has NOTHING to do with the CEO's salary.

The reason for relatively high prices is because thats what they can get away with charging .
And there are too many separate companies clipping the ticket , if it was just the one company from generation to your door, prices might be lower. (might be)
1101 (13337)
1379642 2014-07-21 02:29:00 I got double glazing a while back, barely noticing it's winter this year :) Should get new curtains next, old ones are worn out and barely do anything. You should also get floor length curtains for any windows you can, short ones are much less effective as cold air comes out the bottom and draws warm air in at the top creating a cooling circulation effect. Pelmets help stop this, I find many old building features that have fallen out of fashion like pelmets had a very good reason for being there originally. dugimodo (138)
1379643 2014-07-21 02:52:00 What did the double glazing cost you? It's something my wife and I have wondered about doing.

When we moved into our new place, it got to -2 inside during the first winter. Replaced and re-insulated everything the next winter and got a heat pump installed for the following. Had two nights it dropped below 18 inside, otherwise it was fine. Insulating the roof / floor made an incredible difference, it absolutely blew my mind!

We leave our heat pump going 24/7 now, even in the summer to cool the house. Costs us around $2.50 a day to run. Seriously considering getting another for the other end of the house too!
Chilling_Silence (9)
1379644 2014-07-21 05:21:00 I used an outfit called Metrofit http://www.metrofit.co.nz/ that make double glazing units for existing aluminium joinery. The take the beveled beads? (not sure of the term) out and fit a flat one in it's place so the new glazing can fit into the existing joinery. It's not quite as good as completely new joinery because the aluminium frame is a pretty good heat conductor itself. I'll give them a plug because I'm very happy with the results.

Cost me around $3500 for the entire house including optional tinting. I skipped the toilet laundry and bathroom windows (regret the bathroom) but I had the back door done (occurred to me a glass door is a giant hole in the insulation and a net curtain does nothing - got it changed to privacy glass as well), the ranch slider at the front, and 9 small-medium size windows. Mine is not a huge house.

Ideally proper double glazing uses an insulating material for the frame or a specially designed one with an insulating break in it so that the frame doesn't conduct heat outside, the retrofitted ones still use the standard aluminium frame.

I had hoped the tinting would make nets unnecessary but it's not quite private enough for my liking, you can still see in depending on the light angle etc and I live on a public street corner near some shops. I think they have more expensive tinting options I kinda wished I'd looked into.
dugimodo (138)
1379645 2014-07-21 06:04:00 How did you isolate just the heatpump running cost Chill? gary67 (56)
1379646 2014-07-21 06:40:00 Insulation is no good, after you fire up the heating the insulation stops the cold from getting out :(
Insulation is a two edged sword, since underfloor insulation also stops the flow of cold (negative phlogiston) coming up through the floor in the first place :banana
Terry Porritt (14)
1379647 2014-07-21 08:35:00 But underfloor cold is friendly cold, grown on your own premises. Obviously the cold through roofs and walls could come from anywhere with goodness knows what evil habits. Cold made totally from local ingredients is better than that foreign muck floating about outside; aside from any other considerations it is dry cold with domestic spiders keeping it unicorn-free. In my own case, under the floor is Portugal, that is quite warm, and on the way is even warmer. The en-route from Portugal mid point is sufficiently warm to make me have a concrete slab to keep the natural inhabitants of the halfway area (old politicians, land agents, ex lawyers, and persons of the cloth who backed the wrong god) safely at bay. None of this electronic negative phlogiston for me, I positively admire the stuff riddled with protons fresh from the aether. :clap R2x1 (4628)
1379648 2014-07-21 21:56:00 How did you isolate just the heatpump running cost Chill?

My power bill rarely fluctuates. Everything that's on, is on the same amount of time (Always on basically), so adding the heat pump wasn't too difficult to work out.
At worst we have a little extra lighting during the winter, but we only have one or two 7w LED bulbs extra at most, so basically they cost nothing to run.

With our house being raised, 1m off the ground in most places, replacing the underground foils with decent insulation was incredible. It used to hurt walking on the carpet at nights it was so cold, but not any more :)
Chilling_Silence (9)
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