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Thread ID: 138729	2015-01-13 21:40:00	Dimwit of the month: Lost password	Billy T (70)	Press F1

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1392062	2015-01-22 09:50:00	I don't believe what I wrote was nonsense . So your piece of paper can never got lost or mislaid . Both methods are fallible :>) . . . but having used both, electronic beats it hands down for me - I have multiple files on PC and cell phone running on multiple programs plus backups . As long as the master password is long enough and complex enough I am happy . Gentlmen! Please! Pistols at dawn are not required . If I could not conceal safely in a 1500 square foot house, a double-sided A4 sheet of paper with all my logons and passwords in one or more locations where only I could retrieve them, then best I ask Mrs T to call in the men with gentle hands to come take me away to a place where I cannot harm myself or others, in which case that piece of paper would be redundant anyway . Please remember: hubris has a habit of biting bums as soon as it is exposed to the light . If North Korea can hack into US sites at will, with the US having previously done likewise to North Korea (yes, they have), and password cracking software and methodology out there that can break any password, needing only access and time, then boasting about digital security stored on computers with a web connection is a very risky business . Paper is safer, and Pride cometh before a fall . Cheers Billy 8-{) :illogical	Billy T (70)
1392063	2015-01-22 20:36:00	password cracking software and methodology out there that can break any password, needing only access and time, then boasting about digital security stored on computers with a web connection is a very risky business. Well put Sir ;) :thumbs: Having a electronic password manger is Ok as long as that in its self is not compromised. If someone gets hold of passwords for bank accounts, mail and everything else they can go in and do what they want. Having something written down on paper, they would need to actually be at the location and if its in a secure place would need to be broken into or the location known. If a person has access to the Computer, it only takes a minute or two, depending on the speed of the computer to bypass the password no matter how complicated or long it is. Tech's get this all the time, you pick up a computer or it gets dropped off, and when asked Does it have a password to log on -- Answer Noooo, go to fire it up and guess whats being asked for ;) To save the hassle ( and usual embarrassment of the person) I simply bypass it and do the work. You dont need to know the original password to bypass it. Windows 8/8.1 with peoples email address as a sign in are slighter longer, but still easy enough to get past. :nerd: One guy I saw a while back had all his passwords on a piece of paper inside the top draw of his desk in case he forgot them - I mentioned that's a bit dangerous -- BUT when I went to use one to log in it didn't work :confused: He laughed and said those passwords were actually coded as well, they were a combination of letter, numbers, upper & lower case as well as symbols, at least 12 digits -- He then explained the way they were coded then its quite easy to figure out the real password -- BUT you had to know the code trigger, part of it was right in front of you, but you wouldn't know it. One place thats more secure (and dont laugh) is Microsofts email on computers/Laptops. Had this happen several times, if you go to sign into your email account on outlook.com, and you are to far from your usual location (home, Office etc) you will be prompted for a security code to enter which is sent to either a alternative email address or txt to your cell phone.	wainuitech (129)
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