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Thread ID: 137645	2014-08-02 00:38:00	MS to sue Samsung for failure to pay licenses on patents	Webdevguy (17166)	PC World Chat

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1380683	2014-08-02 00:38:00	I'd have to say good luck to Microsoft on getting any patent royalties out of Samsung. (www.computerworld.co.nz nts/) Samsung is just doing what it does best. I'm in favour of MS taking Samsung to court over failure to hold up their end of a licensing agreement.	Webdevguy (17166)
1380684	2014-08-02 23:20:00	Probably don't want (or not fully realize) their technology in Nokia phones at the time. The ones that file lawsuits (like Apple) are the ones that use (or possibly need) Samsung's technology.	kahawai chaser (3545)
1380685	2014-08-02 23:31:00	Probably don't want (or not fully realize) their technology in Nokia phones at the time. The ones that file lawsuits (like Apple) are the ones that use (or possibly need) Samsung's technology. Did you actually read the article?	Webdevguy (17166)
1380686	2014-08-02 23:45:00	Yes.... Sure Did. Always Do. Why?. Do you read the other links? I did.... I was referring to "But after Microsoft's Nokia acquisition was announced, Samsung decided to stop complying, Microsoft said Friday"	kahawai chaser (3545)
1380687	2014-08-02 23:49:00	Basically Samsung have decide to change their minds so to speak, and Microsoft are only doing what they are entitled to do "Samsung breached the license agreement last fall by refusing to make its Fiscal Year 2 royalty payment on time and then refusing to pay interest on its late payment, and is threatening to breach the License Agreement again with respect to its ongoing royalty payment obligations," A contract was created, then after the fact, things changed So what changed? Since Samsung entered into the agreement, its smartphone sales have quadrupled and it is now the leading worldwide player in the smartphone market. Consider this: when Samsung entered into the agreement in 2011, it shipped 82 million Android smartphones. Just three years later, it shipped 314 million Android smartphones.. After becoming the leading player in the worldwide smartphone market, Samsung decided late last year to stop complying with its agreement with Microsoft. In September 2013, after Microsoft announced it was acquiring the Nokia Devices and Services business, Samsung began using the acquisition as an excuse to breach its contract. If there were no previsions to allow for change, then the original wording of the contract should stand. Guess the lawyers will be rubbing their hands again ;)	wainuitech (129)
1380688	2014-08-03 00:06:00	Basically Samsung have decide to change their minds so to speak, and Microsoft are only doing what they are entitled to do A contract was created, then after the fact, things changed. If there were no previsions to allow for change, then the original wording of the contract should stand. Guess the lawyers will be rubbing their hands again ;) As they always do ;) I'm cheering for Microsoft in this one.	Webdevguy (17166)
1380689	2014-08-03 00:16:00	Samsung beat the others for shipments combined as seen in the IDC report. Outgunned the lot. But in the patent (goo.gl) (pdf). How can Microsoft patent the free android system that MS never created? MS seem like patent scavengers. Massive portfolio. Interpretation of ownership of android could be contested. I think too they discontinued a upcoming Nokia phone. MS buy, can't really sell their mobiles. I wonder then if they were relying heavily on Samsung's payments for their mobile department.	kahawai chaser (3545)
1380690	2014-08-03 01:28:00	Wonder haw many of the MS patents are the ones that they bought of the Nortel bankruptcy sale??	paulw (1826)
1380691	2014-08-03 01:45:00	Wonder haw many of the MS patents are the ones that they bought of the Nortel bankruptcy sale?? I would imagine it would be most of them.	Webdevguy (17166)
1380692	2014-08-03 01:56:00	But in the patent (goo.gl) (pdf). How can Microsoft patent the free android system that MS never created? . Microsoft aren't saying they have patent rights over Android, its the MS patents that are being used. In that linked pdf, items 1 & 9, it states, what its about, AND Samsung signed a contract agreeing, now that are trying to weasel out of it. The wording that's important is "In Exchange for a Licence to use Microsoft Patents in Samsung's Androids Based smart phones and Tablets". This is completely different to saying patents on a free android system it self. If the whole thing if read, Part of item 25 & 30 & 44 is a rather Hmmmmm	wainuitech (129)
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