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| Thread ID: 63575 | 2005-11-15 01:23:00 | Bittorrent and Woosh | Barnzy (6015) | Press F1 |
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| 404429 | 2005-11-18 21:18:00 | Impossible to limit unless you stick to one port that the are shaping or they are shaping everything. Most clients can change ports at will and simply by-passes the usual ports. You can choose any you like. Or they may do it using IP Service Control to priorotise bandwidth. Very good Flash demo on this site www.p-cube.com |
Barnzy (6015) | ||
| 404430 | 2005-11-18 21:19:00 | Impossible to limit unless you stick to one port that the are shaping or they are shaping everything. Most clients can change ports at will and simply by-passes the usual ports. You can choose any you like. I'm pretty sure they use packet inspection these days so it won't matter what port you use. |
Greven (91) | ||
| 404431 | 2005-11-18 22:56:00 | It doesn't matter what port it is leaving your computer, its still running through the same protocol. It can be tracked. They limit it for a reason. | DangerousDave (697) | ||
| 404432 | 2005-11-19 01:07:00 | This character doesn't seem to understand that he has two different services . One is a "telephone line" . The data packets used in that get priority, so the voice quality will be acceptable, and aren't counted as part of the limit on his plan for the other, "data", service . The gateway for the telephone service is not meant to be handling Internet data transfers . That's what the standard gateways are for . Of course, any data packets sent though the phone host won't get the VOIP priority (if I was the system administrator, I'd make sure such rogue packets got a special QOS peak rate of 1 bit/second ;) ), and will be counted in the data service total . But it is an unnecessary load on the host handling the VOIP service . It is totally pointless . Just because it's possible to do it doesn't mean that it's a good idea . I'll try to make an analogy which he might understand . Some places have bus lanes, so buses can move faster without interference from all the cars carrying one person . Every so often some ignorant car driver decides that "the roads are intended for getting from point A to point B" , and he can move much faster in the bus lane . Such idiots also think that lane might be a good place to park . :D Anyone who thinks that "all data is the same -- 1 or 0" has obviously had very sheltered technical life . I've built computers --- not by plugging in manufactured cards like Lego components; with a soldering iron and wirewrap tool . I was networking computers long before there were IBM PCs, or even TCP/IP, and I know there is always a range of high, low maybe, sometimes, never, nearly . And that's just the signal levels . Then there's FM, MFM, Manchester, PE, PPM, FSK, and many more before you get to the protocols . VOIP packets are for the phone service, and should go through the host designated by Woosh for that service . Other TCP/IP packets are for the data service, and should go through the host (or hosts) designated by the ISP for that service . I'll continue to take an active part in PressF1, especially if it annoys Barnzy . And then there were three . . . |
Graham L (2) | ||
| 404433 | 2005-11-19 01:23:00 | It doesn't matter what port it is leaving your computer, its still running through the same protocol. It can be tracked. They limit it for a reason. Well dont limit it on mine. I get well over 170KB/sec on the 2Mb plan when using BitTorrent. |
Big John (551) | ||
| 404434 | 2005-11-19 01:50:00 | Congratulations, you're killing the internet. | DangerousDave (697) | ||
| 404435 | 2005-11-19 03:48:00 | GRAHAM L....CAN YOU HEAR ME? I"M NOT USING THE VOIP PORT FOR DATA ALL MY TRAFFIC GOES THROUGH THE "GATEWAY"!!!!!!!!!! Oh what's the point. The guy can't even read. |
Barnzy (6015) | ||
| 404436 | 2005-11-19 04:37:00 | graham. u just dont get it plez read the first few posts in the thread again. fairly sure that if they were going to throttle, it wont matter what port u change to. the filters check the packet headers nowdays. |
dbs (8785) | ||
| 404437 | 2005-11-19 05:22:00 | Congratulations, you're killing the internet. Tough!!!!! I pay for a 2M connection and what I do with it is MY business and if I want to use that full 2M bandwidth I will. Currently screaming down at 240KB/sec 350MB in about 20 minutes. Time Telecom got their sh?t togeather and started planning for this sort of thing. They have plenty of room left on their cable and they should open it even more so we are not a 3rd world country when it comes to broadband. |
Big John (551) | ||
| 404438 | 2005-11-20 01:11:00 | graham . u just dont get it plez read the first few posts in the thread again . fairly sure that if they were going to throttle, it wont matter what port u change to . the filters check the packet headers nowdays . dbs: I read the first few posts . Read my posts . I get it all right . I don't give a fourpenny whether ISPs throttle bittorrent or not . This questioner found he could send bittorrent stuff through the host which Woosh has set up for use with their VOIP service . Because VOIP needs streaming type transfers, not normal scheduling, and the bytes produced in VOIP phone calls aren't counted as part of the Internet plan limit, he thought he was on to a good thing . Then he complained because it wasn't going as fast as he wanted . Then he got abusive because he didn't like being told he was trying to abuse the system . |
Graham L (2) | ||
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