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Thread ID: 63575	2005-11-15 01:23:00	Bittorrent and Woosh	Barnzy (6015)	Press F1

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404409	2005-11-15 01:23:00	I've been trying to download Linux distros using Bitcomet through the woosh voip gateway and so only get " local" connections and no "remotes". The download speed is around 3KBps. If I try bypassing the gateway using usb I get "Remotes" & "Local" connections with no increase in down speed, or up speed, and the system becomes very unstable and I lose the phone, of course. I've opened appropriate ports and configured win xp firewall and suspended Zone Alarm. I could use port forwarding if I could find the port No. of the gateway but Woosh seem reticent to give me any help on this. I get the impression that Woosh is throttling bittorrent traffic but again I can't get a staight answer from them. With their data cap I suspect using bittorrent is a bit dumb as the amount of time it takes allows so much up traffic that to download 500megs costs me around 700meg meaning a total of around 1.2 Gig. Any comments or help on this would be most welcome. "A bad carpenter thinks his shiny, new tools are going to save his sorry ass from oblivion"	Barnzy (6015)
404410	2005-11-15 13:11:00	Can you change the port in that bitcomet program? Can you forward the ports that the bitcomet program uses? What's the woosh voip gateway?	MikeS (756)
404411	2005-11-15 19:20:00	Can you change the port in that bitcomet program? Can you forward the ports that the bitcomet program uses? What's the woosh voip gateway? Yes to the port changing..............Why? I could forward the ports........Why? The gateway is a router type device for the voip but Woosh are evasive about port numbers.	Barnzy (6015)
404412	2005-11-15 21:04:00	They have VOIP with Woosh now? What's it like, a radio conversation? Hello, how are you? Over. <3 seconds later> I'm good, what's happening? Over. ... Anyway, does the gateway have a configuration thing you can use? Use Shareaza or something, it works well enough without port forwarding.	MikeS (756)
404413	2005-11-15 21:47:00	The quality is about the same as Cellphone and it's only 10c a minute international and free local, buisness and residential, the gateway has no configuration app/interface. I suspect the gateway config is to do with your phone number as in s/n for cellphones but not sure on that. Anyone have any clues on this? Using bitcomet, I managed to get speeds of 16 kBps/128kbps by changing the allowed connections to go upto 10000 instead of the default 30-60 (it seemed to settle on its own at around 600 connections, by default Winxp only allows 10 so you have to change that). As torrents are a 2 way thing the upload rate affects the download rate so maybe I'm maxed out. :D	Barnzy (6015)
404414	2005-11-16 00:33:00	Let's get this straight. Woosh have provided a VOIP system, which uses a "gateway" of its own. This is presumably intended to maintain an acceptable " Quality of Service", to make it acceptable for speech use. And you are trying to (ab)use their VOIP bandwidth to download (and upload) many megabytes of data. I'm not surprised Woosh are reluctant to help you do "better". ;)	Graham L (2)
404415	2005-11-16 21:28:00	Not at all. Woosh supplies a "broadband" internet service 500kbps which runs through a router/gateway that allows viop. I am using my, paid for, bandwidth to do what anyone else does ie. surf the web, eMail and the exchange of files. My query is whether woosh is throttling bandwidth for bittorrent files and if the are why can't they be honest about it.	Barnzy (6015)
404416	2005-11-17 02:08:00	Wrong, Barnzy. You are abusing their system. Woosh's telephone VOIP service is separate from the basic Internet data service. "Data sent as a result of the phone call is not included in your monthly high-speed data usage allowance". So you are actually trying to rip them off. "... The Woosh phone service utilises technology that allows the network to prioritize your call ..." So you if you manage to get huge data flows, you are likely to bugger up the calls of people using it as it is intended to be used, for phone calls.	Graham L (2)
404417	2005-11-17 03:34:00	Most ISPs limit Bittorrent, this is because it is slowly strangling the internet. I should also point out that the idea of bittorrent is to share. Cohen doesn't care that you have a cap, he is interested in people giving back some of the bandwidth they take rather than leeching.	DangerousDave (697)
404418	2005-11-17 07:08:00	Graham. I am not wrong. I pay for a broadband service that includes voip, not an exclusive viop service. yes they do priorotise viop and so I am not abusing that service. If I were abusing it then they should tell me. AND "Data sent as a result of the phone call is not included in your monthly high-speed data usage allowance" is what they say, but when you check your usage it is there in black and white (or black and green if your that behind the times) and if you want to accuse me of ripping someone off I take that as a personal deflamatory accusation and will report your post. Understand this. I pay for a service and any restriction of the sevice I pay for should be explained by the ISP (Woosh) this has not been done. Dave. I understand that most ISP's limit bottorrent but it would be "nice" to be told by the ISP that this is the case. As for strangling the internet I would put the blame squarley at the door of Telecom.	Barnzy (6015)
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