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| Thread ID: 63822 | 2005-11-23 23:11:00 | Midi connection keyboard>computer | Billy T (70) | Press F1 |
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| 406941 | 2005-11-23 23:11:00 | Hi Team No 1 son is composing music (using Sibelius 3) and wants to connect our keyboard to his computer. KB has midi in and out sockets, computer has a midi/game port and I can buy the interface cable from Pudney & Lee. What else will I need to get this up and running. Is midi capability built into soundcard software? His computer has on-board sound but the motherboard manual says nothing much more than it can be used for midi. MB is PCchips M758+ Socket 370 I think the actual model is M756LMKT+ Cheers Billy 8-{) |
Billy T (70) | ||
| 406942 | 2005-11-23 23:27:00 | Hmm the midi port should work, if the Onboard Game/midi port is enabled in the BIOS, and given an interrupt address. It shouldn't need anything else, besides some music software. So, the kb can communicate with the port. |
Speedy Gonzales (78) | ||
| 406943 | 2005-11-23 23:44:00 | Hmm the midi port should work, if the Onboard Game/midi port is enabled in the BIOS, and given an interrupt address. I'll check those thanks. It shouldn't need anything else, besides some music software. So, the kb can communicate with the port. What sort of software are we talking about here? Cheers Billy 8-{) |
Billy T (70) | ||
| 406944 | 2005-11-24 00:06:00 | Something like this (www.cakewalk.com/) this (http:) this (www.propellerheads.se) Or take your pick (dir.yahoo.com) Here's a site on how to connect it (www.etcetera.co.uk) |
Speedy Gonzales (78) | ||
| 406945 | 2005-11-24 00:17:00 | Also, when plugging in the keyboard, make sure that the plug labelled "Out" goes to the socket labelled "In" on the keyboard, and vice-versa. You shouldn't need any software other than Sibelius (or any other sequencer you may also be using) - pretty much all sequencers interact directly with the hardware (via the drivers / settings in Windows). You may need to go into some sort of Hardware Setup dialog to set the recording / input device to the keyboard (usually with "MPU-401" or "UART" in the name). I'm not sure if this will work successfully with onboard sound. If it does, that's great; otherwise you might need a sound card (I use an SB Live Value). Hope this helps. -D. McG |
D. McG (3023) | ||
| 406946 | 2005-11-24 00:25:00 | You certainly shouldn't need anything more than Sibelius. :D (It is the very best software). This tutorial (cara.gsu.edu/courses/MIDI/waveart.html) will tell you more than you need to know about it. :cool: "MPU-401" was the Roland hardware which the protocol/standard was written around. |
Graham L (2) | ||
| 406947 | 2005-11-25 21:47:00 | Bought the cable, plugged it in, started Sibelius and bingo! it was up and running instantly. There was no provision to enable the gameport in the bios so it must be hard coded. All we have to do now is get the timing synchronisation right. I think the computer lags the keyboard, but I've left the boy to do his own research for a while, I don't believe in holding their hands unless serious money is involved. Thanks for all the help, we'll go back to that if he is unsuccessful, I seem to remember reading something about synchronisation somewhere in the posted links. Cheers Billy 8-{) :thumbs: |
Billy T (70) | ||
| 406948 | 2005-11-25 23:38:00 | I suppose the lag might depend on how fast he hits the keys. The serial interface is 31.25 kbps. ;) I know it's not one of the "standard" speeds. Roland didn't use PCs. They just used UARTs and picked a speed. (It looks as if one of the clocks in their synthesisers might have been 0.5MHz) :cool: | Graham L (2) | ||
| 406949 | 2005-11-26 04:39:00 | I suppose the lag might depend on how fast he hits the keys. The serial interface is 31.25 kbps. ;) I know it's not one of the "standard" speeds. Roland didn't use PCs. They just used UARTs and picked a speed. (It looks as if one of the clocks in their synthesisers might have been 0.5MHz) :cool: I've just been checking it with him Graham, and it is a fixed delay that even affects just one key-press. You hit the key on the keyboard for say a drum beat, the note sounds from the keyboard then a finite period afterwards the speakers attached to the computer play it. It is milliseconds, but very very obvious, my guess is that it is 50-100mS +. The keyboard is nothing flash (a Casio CTK-530) but they make pretty reasonable products so I can't imagine that they would provide a midi function that was not useable. Sounds like we need to synchronise the keyboard with Sibelius or something like that, but I have no idea how that is achieved. I have read about an MTC signal from keyboards that is supposed to do something like that but there is nothing in the Casio manual. Anybody got any ideas? Cheers Billy 8-{) |
Billy T (70) | ||
| 406950 | 2005-11-26 23:56:00 | OK, I give up, any midi experts out there? I can't find anything in the Sibelius help files, the keyboard manual, or on the net that addresses this problem. Cheers Billy 8-{) :help: |
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