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Thread ID: 63892 2005-11-25 21:27:00 Questions about Laptop Pre-Purchase. MasturJeff (7803) Press F1
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407589 2005-11-26 07:55:00 Nah, I don't like Intel that much, I think the Pentium 4 is crap and its about time they changed their approach (ie with Conroe). I wouldn't recommend a Pentium 4, its too hot and slow compared to cool, energy efficient AMD Athlon.

I have an old AMD Athlon XP btw for desktop.

Yes, Turion is more powerful, but its at the expense of battery life. Isn't a laptop meant to be used on the run without AC power? Battery life is a huge factor in laptop purchase.

Yonah is expected to be released on January 1st. Turion X2 Dual Core is due much later.

I would expect to see Yonah laptops coming into NZ in mid January-February, but it could be earlier/later. I'm guessing you're in the States at the moment looking to buy now, but I personally would buy in NZ later, even if it meant Dell to customise the laptop.

Windows Vista which is 64bit isn't coming out untill Q3 2006, when laptop technology will be very different - ie Intel Merom (64bit, very low TDP = very long battery life), and whatever AMD has to counter that.

So yeah, again, if you want multi-tasking I would truly recommend waiting untill Yonah comes out early January. Current Pentium Ms are not great at gaming or multimedia applications because of the lack of SSE2 (limited) and SSE3 support, but the Yonah core addresses these issues with full SSE2 and SSE3 support which will increase performance in games and multimedia applications.

It is a very interesting topic, because of brand preference by people and the trade-offs between the different companies, but generally, laptops are for mobility, which usually means a preference of long battery life over performance and light-weights.

It may also put you off with the weight of the dv8000z (the 17" HP model with Turion processor) is 8.1lbs = 3.7kg compared to 6.8lbs =3.1kg of the dv4000 series, thats another 600g in weight (and that's a lot because my laptop weighs in at 2.7kg = around 5.96lbs.

For mobility purposes, the 17" maybe too bulky - I wouldn't want to take a long a 17" laptop for school (I presume University?)

As I write, I've got 22% charge on my travel battery and 6% charge on my main battery (14% total) and I've got about an 1hr left. This on a Pentium M 740 w/64mb X-600 Mobility Radeon, wireless on.

Again, looking at your original post, you say mobility and battery being your most important factors, so definately Intel, be it Pentium M or Yonah.
Marmion (9274)
407590 2005-11-26 08:11:00 If you don't, hang around for the 64bit edition of XP Pro, released end of this year, and hopefully end of this year will also show a 64bit photoshop preview


64 Bit XP Pro is out already. You maybe talking about Vista, which is the new OS after XP.
Speedy Gonzales (78)
407591 2005-11-26 08:13:00 Hello Once Again... and again.... and again.

www-604.ibm.com

this link will tak you straight to the support area for the IBM Thinkpad Lenovo T Series- Which Sounds like they suit your needs perfectly:

Intel® Centrino™ Mobile Technology for outstanding wireless performance (select models)
Available with Microsoft® Windows® XP
14.1' TFT display models with travel weights starting at 2.05kg2 and less than 1"14 thin
15' TFT display models with travel weights starting at 2.41kg2 and less than 1"14 thin
Standard battery life up to 7 hours6 (select models)
Airbag-like Active Protection System to help protect your hard drive
Data backup and protection (requires software download on select models)
Integrated ThinkPad 11a/b or 11a/b/g Wi-Fi® wireless10 (select models)
Up to 256MB Radeon X850 Mobile Graphics (Select Models)

just over 2kg, up to 7hrs battery life and good graphics, fingerprint security, xp pro all packed into a nice, stylish little package. Sounds like a dream come true

I gotta get one of these, maybe i'll sell my A6U......

Happy Shopping
maverickoc (7240)
407592 2005-11-26 08:22:00 For the processor that best balances performance and battery life though, you need to turn to Intel's Centrino technology or a later equivalent. Centrino is actually a combination of technologies including chipset, a wireless adapter and a processor. Processors included in Centrino models are either Intel Celeron-M or Pentium-M units, with the former being cheaper at a cost to performance. Go with a Pentium M powered machine
Forget the powermac... for a start it will cost you twice the price
Myth (110)
407593 2005-11-26 17:38:00 HT says it's like having two processors- unfortunatly, I haven't seen much difference through the test machines at work

But I (Me, Myself, I) wouldn't really waste time with Intel Chips- If you're looking for a balance between power and battery, check this out links are at the bottom of this- These ASUS and acer notebooks really pack a punch. Where the ASUS offers value for money, the Acer Ferrari is a power beast and gives at least 3.5hrs of battery- turning down the brightness and CPU speed take you up to 4.5 hrs, as long as you shut the screen when it's not in use.

I have had excellent experiences with Asus ansd Acer. They provide top-notch support, a fair software package that should fit your needs.


Now for your next question. No, not unless you need as much power as possible for Photoshop. My laptop, and Asus A6U (And turion based,) manages to run Photoshop quite well while running Norton Anti-Virus 2006 in the background

You should also consider widescreen- 16:9 gives more space for pallettes and keeps things out of the way so you aren't cluttered while you are working

If you will be using Photoshop, then, yes, Do go to 2.0GB of ram

Photoshop fires up in about 15-20secs on My A6U.

But if you are going into photo editing, need power and battery life, combined with stability, Go Mac. I recently bought a Powermac G5 and wish I had an ibook as I hear rumours of a 4hr battery life when going out to a data projector. G4 power is amazing for it's speed. If money is no barrier, Grab a powerbook and Photoshop Academic for Mac

P.S.- Make sure that you at least get the Radeon X700 Mobility for the best graphics performance


Where are the links that go with this article that you copied & pasted? The real author mentioned to check out the links at the bottom on the page.
Jen (38)
407594 2005-11-26 20:44:00 This "Yonah" processor you guys are referring to interests me...

Is there somewhere I can read more about it? I live in the US btw.
MasturJeff (7803)
407595 2005-11-26 21:55:00 Google "Intel Yonah" and there will be lots of articles on it.
There's information on prices, speed, specs etc.
Marmion (9274)
407596 2005-11-26 22:33:00 Wow, this Yonah sounds like the real deal.

I guess for now I'll purchase a laptop with Pentium M 2.0 GHz, then when the Yonah comes out I'll give the laptop to my sister and get a new one.
MasturJeff (7803)
407597 2005-11-26 22:58:00 Wow, this Yonah sounds like the real deal.

I guess for now I'll purchase a laptop with Pentium M 2.0 GHz, then when the Yonah comes out I'll give the laptop to my sister and get a new one.
when the Yonah chips come out you will have a choice of OS's xp, os x and linux
plod (107)
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