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| Thread ID: 137742 | 2014-08-15 01:07:00 | PM OK's Hacking...so long as the site isn't protected!!! | ruup (1827) | PC World Chat |
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| 1381749 | 2014-08-16 06:12:00 | And making selective use of stolen emails to produce a book of unsubstantiated claims of wrongdoing is quite OK? Both the left and the right will do whatever they can to get votes. It is in my view rather naive to go on about it. Not long now and life will return to normal. No, that should definitely be looked at as well. I'm rather surprised that you consider it quite OK for politicians and their lackeys to break the law in the process of "getting votes". |
fred_fish (15241) | ||
| 1381750 | 2014-08-16 06:42:00 | No, that should definitely be looked at as well. I'm rather surprised that you consider it quite OK for politicians and their lackeys to break the law in the process of "getting votes". I did not express approval just lack of surprise. |
CliveM (6007) | ||
| 1381751 | 2014-08-16 07:01:00 | It is in my view rather naive to go on about it. Not long now and life will return to normal. That looks a lot like a tacit approval to me. |
fred_fish (15241) | ||
| 1381752 | 2014-08-16 08:16:00 | And making selective use of stolen emails to produce a book of unsubstantiated claims of wrongdoing is quite OK? Both the left and the right will do whatever they can to get votes. It is in my view rather naive to go on about it. Not long now and life will return to normal. That is not a very sound argument, whether the emails were stolen or not does not alter their content does it ? The so-called 'unsubstantiated claims' are indeed substantiated by their content combined with blog and Facebook comments by the parties concerned, unless of course you subscribe to the view that Hagar made it all up and wrote the emails himself, as Key 'almost' said the other morning. |
Terry Porritt (14) | ||
| 1381753 | 2014-08-16 11:14:00 | "Open" is the wrong word, more like finding a backdoor vulnerability that gave access to directories and files not intended for the public, like membership data base with peoples credit card details. Then there is the intent of making use of that data for political ends.......maybe all fair in love and war :) It would be analogous to someone finding the backdoor open to a public building, wandering through the offices, opening filing cabinets and extracting private or commercially sensitive data. Thanks Terry, that makes sense. |
Winston001 (3612) | ||
| 1381754 | 2014-08-16 11:31:00 | That seems a very clear breach of Section 252 (that has been publicly admitted) and one might think it would be very difficult to claim a "colour of right" ( . nbr . co . nz/article/keith-ng-facing-possible-two-years-jail-if-successfully-prosecuted-has-defence-lawyer-ck-130" target="_blank">www . nbr . co . nz) defense . One would expect the police would be obliged to act if a complaint was laid . . . Yes but this event happened three years ago, was public knowledge at the time, and no complaint was made . We should also remember the guy who found a backdoor or something into the Ministry of Social Development on one of its public terminals . He wasn't prosecuted . So if someone is pack raped or murdered, if the perpetrator is not caught within three years they should get away scott free? How does that lessen the braking of the law? The Law is still broken . As far as I know there is no statute of limitations in New Zealand . Please correct me if I am wrong . Yes there certainly is a Statute of Limitations - in fact there are two - 1950 and 2010 . . legislation . govt . nz/act/public/2010/0110/latest/DLM2033120 . html" target="_blank">www . legislation . govt . nz However that isn't what you mean . For offences ranging from parking on an expired meter through dangerous driving most of the way up, there are time limits for filing the charge in court . As best I can recall its 6 months for minor offences, 2 years for bigger, 5 years for bad, maybe 12 years for really bad, and no limitation on rape, sexual assault, and murder . |
Winston001 (3612) | ||
| 1381755 | 2014-08-16 11:36:00 | You can watch it all here from back in 2011. Easy: www.youtube.com I'm no lawyer but that doesn't appear illegal to me. |
Chilling_Silence (9) | ||
| 1381756 | 2014-08-16 11:38:00 | Incidentally, here's a test: describe the police evidence against a person who accessed the Labour server. Remember, everyone has the right to silence and is innocent until proven guilty. A computer ip address cannot tell you who used that computer. Try proving a statement online was made by a specific individual. How do you prove the prosecution case? |
Winston001 (3612) | ||
| 1381757 | 2014-08-16 12:31:00 | Incidentally, here's a test: describe the police evidence against a person who accessed the Labour server. Remember, everyone has the right to silence and is innocent until proven guilty. A computer ip address cannot tell you who used that computer. Try proving a statement online was made by a specific individual. How do you prove the prosecution case?And yet this is how the recording industry lawsuits are working | plod (107) | ||
| 1381758 | 2014-08-16 16:39:00 | True Plod, but as I understand it, a person accused of downloading illicitly can rightly challenge that by showing their router was open to other people which is quite normal in student flats. There have been very few almost no charges. In fact the only one I know of involves an intellectually challenged person who had no understanding of what he was accused of doing. | Winston001 (3612) | ||
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