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Thread ID: 137742 2014-08-15 01:07:00 PM OK's Hacking...so long as the site isn't protected!!! ruup (1827) PC World Chat
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1381799 2014-08-18 08:34:00 What I don't see anyone mentioning, and what I heard on the news last night, was that the information was originally on the Labour website and publicly available.
In other words the term "Hacking" has been wrongly used. The correct term is "browsing".

As far as I can tell from all the information I have seen or heard, the person responsible (and for now lets say it was Ede) is only guilty of doing publicly available research on the opposition which is neither "Dirty" nor a crime.

You have that 100% correct.
CliveM (6007)
1381800 2014-08-18 08:37:00 ...uh, what? Labour+Greens and National are just a few points apart...


Remember, to boot, what Harold Wilson said way back (it seems just like yesterday)..........."A week is a long time in politics"
Terry Porritt (14)
1381801 2014-08-18 08:45:00 What I don't see anyone mentioning, and what I heard on the news last night, was that the information was originally on the Labour website and publicly available.
In other words the term "Hacking" has been wrongly used. The correct term is "browsing".

As far as I can tell from all the information I have seen or heard, the person responsible (and for now lets say it was Ede) is only guilty of doing publicly available research on the opposition which is neither "Dirty" nor a crime.
Hager never said the word hack
www.medialawjournal.co.nz
plod (107)
1381802 2014-08-18 09:10:00 Hager never said the word hack
www.medialawjournal.co.nz

Interesting Link Plod. :thumbs:
B.M. (505)
1381803 2014-08-18 09:46:00 Good link Plod but I'm sure keys bend over and take it boys will dismiss it as they are so emu like (head in the sand) over his loony antics.

Just because JK bent over for the FBI doesn't mean we should do the same for JK
gary67 (56)
1381804 2014-08-18 10:28:00 John Key and his [B]elk need to be deposed and disposed of .



John Key has an ELK? Ooo goot .


Wi not trei a holiday in Sweeden this yer ?

See the loveli lakes

The wonderful telephone system

And mani interesting furry animals

Including the majestic elk . . . and moose

A moose once bit my sister . . .

No realli! She was Karving her initials on the moose with the sharpened end
of an interspace toothbrush given her by Svenge - her brother-in-law - an
Oslo dentist and star of many Norwegian movies:

"The Hot Hands of an Oslo Dentist",
"Fillings of Passion",
"The Huge Molars of Horst Nordfink" . . .

Mynd you, moose bites Kan be pretti nasti . . .
Winston001 (3612)
1381805 2014-08-18 11:02:00 Excellent post from a well respected forum member Normally in almost any other thread, that would be a compliment, but in this particular thread its a suckup if ones ever been written. :wub :yuck: wainuitech (129)
1381806 2014-08-18 11:13:00 Hager never said the word hack
www.medialawjournal.co.nz

True - from your link :
While Nicky makes it clear that the site was insecure, it’s an open question, as a matter of law, whether this means it was not a crime to go digging around in it.

This is the sort of misleading information that has been bandied around with concerning regularity.
For example, the DoL website has a multitude of documents available to download and read (as do millions of other websites), so to suggest that the legality of downloading a document in a public domain and reading it is in question infers that all downloadable documents should never be opened and read because it may not be legal.
This lawyer is probably very good at his job, which is in effect to bend or manipulate the truth to their own purpose, and if unable to do that, then to confuse those who he is talking to.
Many in the news media have either done the same thing on purpose, or have not understood the basics of what a hack is.
Krakka (17266)
1381807 2014-08-18 13:37:00 There's been a decline. R2x1 (4628)
1381808 2014-08-18 20:56:00 The point is that in 2011 when Banks and Key were recorded in a Coffee Bar planning the manipulation of the electoral system, the Police were called and a High Court Suppression Order sort.

(Even though their meeting was in a Coffee Bar.)

However, now Key is saying it is OK to help yourself to Membership details and other Personal Information from a Website if the opposition hasn’t hidden it properly.

OK, it’s straight out irresponsible for Labour not to have secured their Website, as it would be not locking your house, but that doesn’t entitle a visitor to help themselves to what they want. :(
B.M. (505)
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