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| 411033 | 2006-01-12 05:49:00 | I fully understand your arguement, but it is completely irrelevant to my quote. Yet you seem to have little or no understanding of what im saying. I give up trying to reason with you, so seem to have the opinion that you know all and that nobody else can be correct. Enjoy your hollow victory, i have much better things to do with my time than spend it arguing with you. Toodles Groan :groan: P.S feel free to post some brilliant reply, im sure the world will be much better off thanks to your infinite wisdom, i for one wont reply or even read the thread. Pitty you just didn't post "yea forgot about the ram differince between the cards" 20 posts back" and you read this I know you did :) |
Battleneter (60) | ||
| 411034 | 2006-01-12 05:57:00 | Many manufacturers with expensive complex products sell them at a range of prices. Memory and CPU chips have for years separated into speed groups and sold accordingly. The separation is usually based on sampling of batches, and the ratings are conservative, because the manufacturers are guaranteeing certain levels of performance. Often, individual samples of a batch will perform perfectly well at higher speeds. This has led to the popular hobby iof overclocking. Intel had to resort to laser burning speed ratings on some of their Pentiums, because dealers were buying low speed devices, grinding off Intel's markings, and putting fraudulent marks on, to sell them as higher speed CPUs. Intel released the 486SX (as an AMD killer) because they could sell 486 CPUs which had faults in the FPU. They just disabled the FPU in the bad chips. The 486SX was reasonably popular, and the yields of 486s with perfect FPUs rose to the level that they didn't have enough faulty ones. They had to resort to disabling perfect FPUs to meet the orders. If GPUs are designed to use variable numbers of pipelines, (with the reasonable commercial intention of being able to sell partially faulty chips) it is quite plausible that some units, sold as having 12 pipelines, and priced accordingly, might have 16 perfectly functional ones. There might even be a lot like that. But they won't be guaranteed to have 16. (All 16 might not work when they get hot, for example ...). So what's the problem? Why the personal abuse? |
Graham L (2) | ||
| 411035 | 2006-01-12 06:18:00 | Many manufacturers with expensive complex products sell them at a range of prices . Memory and CPU chips have for years separated into speed groups and sold accordingly . The separation is usually based on sampling of batches, and the ratings are conservative, because the manufacturers are guaranteeing certain levels of performance . Often, individual samples of a batch will perform perfectly well at higher speeds . This has led to the popular hobby iof overclocking . Intel had to resort to laser burning speed ratings on some of their Pentiums, because dealers were buying low speed devices, grinding off Intel's markings, and putting fraudulent marks on, to sell them as higher speed CPUs . Intel released the 486SX (as an AMD killer) because they could sell 486 CPUs which had faults in the FPU . They just disabled the FPU in the bad chips . The 486SX was reasonably popular, and the yields of 486s with perfect FPUs rose to the level that they didn't have enough faulty ones . They had to resort to disabling perfect FPUs to meet the orders . If GPUs are designed to use variable numbers of pipelines, (with the reasonable commercial intention of being able to sell partially faulty chips) it is quite plausible that some units, sold as having 12 pipelines, and priced accordingly, might have 16 perfectly functional ones . There might even be a lot like that . But they won't be guaranteed to have 16 . (All 16 might not work when they get hot, for example . . . ) . So what's the problem? Why the personal abuse? lol um . . . . . . . . yep I know all this 15 years+ ago and I can tell Pete probably knows all this too, not sure why you have posted it? . The ONLY problem I had is with the statment "if the extra pipelines worked nVidia would sell it as a 6800GT" was, he was talking about performance . To make a 6800Gt you need two main ingrediants a 16pip NV40GPU and DDR3(not DDR1) . A 16pipe NV40 by iteslf is NOT I repeat NOT a 6800GT, certainly not with DDR1 as the 6800LE has(ram i am talking) . He was talking performance and he knows it which of course is wrong . He simply forgot about the ram differnce between the cards, and tried to argue his way out it which is a tad difficult when my MMORPG is down at the moment and I have nothing better to do :) |
Battleneter (60) | ||
| 411036 | 2006-01-12 06:50:00 | and I have nothing better to do haha :blush: |
77888877 (9387) | ||
| 411037 | 2006-01-12 11:42:00 | So what is the whole point to this discussion between the 6800LE and the 6800GT? Was a bit confusing, with all the different views going around. | Sleepy (7202) | ||
| 411038 | 2006-01-19 08:38:00 | yes,that's right! but in my system,i got a 3Dmark03 score of 10398 and 3Dmark05 score of 4118. :D album.pchome.net album.pchome.net did you overclocking? my system: sp2500+(oc 2.1G) /abit nf8-v2(nf3 250)/Infineon 512*2 @ddr 466/leadtek 6800le (16/6@325/800) So why does your 3d mark results identify it as a 6800GT? |
Metla (12) | ||
| 411039 | 2006-01-20 08:52:00 | So why does your 3d mark results identify it as a 6800GT? easy,use RivaTuner or modify the card BIOS. i have modified my bios.by default,it is a 6800GT with 16/6 @ 325/800.haha :rolleyes: give me your email,if you want it ;) |
77888877 (9387) | ||
| 411040 | 2006-01-20 08:56:00 | nah, I figured you have OC's her, Just suspected 3dmark identified the card by its bios and thought I would ask . I just dropped a 6800GS into my rig, that will do fine stock standard for the time being . |
Metla (12) | ||
| 411041 | 2006-01-20 20:57:00 | So why does your 3d mark results identify it as a 6800GT? Actually it doesn't my 6800Gt pulls over 6K in 2005 and over 12K in 2003 with no card overclock (CPU is overclocked). The reason why his score is lower will be the pussy ram on the LE, however they are great scores for an LE. Grats on the New GS, don't run 3dmark 2006, it brings my GT to its knees, make me sad lol. |
Battleneter (60) | ||
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