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413756 2005-12-18 21:20:00 Should I install ALL windows updates?. I have read that some of these updates can upset the system? Any advice appreciated. Thanks. Pato (2463)
413757 2005-12-18 21:23:00 All critical and security patches... yes

Issues with MS patches are usually few and far between
Myth (110)
413758 2005-12-18 21:23:00 I've never installed a single one. Ever.
I prefer 3rd party security.

Now everyone will tell you to get them....
pctek (84)
413759 2005-12-18 21:30:00 I've never installed a single one. Ever.
I prefer 3rd party security.

Now everyone will tell you to get them....

I am inclined to follow your advice or perhaps just install critical updates as Tazz suggests. What is the 3rd party security you refer to?
Pato (2463)
413760 2005-12-18 21:56:00 Just dont use IE or OE. As these are full of holes/vulnerabilities.

Without updates. Or dont use windows full stop.

BUT, even with other programs for security, it doesnt mean you wont get something like a trojan/worm or virus. You've only got yourself to blame, if you get hit.
Speedy Gonzales (78)
413761 2005-12-18 22:23:00 You've only got yourself to blame, if you get hit.Or as is usually the case, one of your email contacts.

I personally don't use Windows, but if I have to use it for something (very seldom these days), I use Firefox and Thunderbird over IE and OE, not bulletproof, but still more secure.
Myth (110)
413762 2005-12-18 23:36:00 I used to sit there and analyze every service pack, but it's easier to use "Express."

Also Microsoft will sometimes ...eerrr..."hide" the exact nature of a patch. For example, there's the infamous JPEG that caused remote code access to your PC. What Microsoft somewhat obscured was that this was a Microsoft Word exploit.

On a number of occasions, Microsoft has flagged a patch as moderate, and some months later it was discovered to have fixed a serious hole; e.g. Code Red.

Perhaps if you're building a PC image that'll be used by thousand of PC, it might be worth analyzing, but otherwise just patch regularly.

By the way, if you're not patching your PC, you really are asking for trouble.

You may be well served by disabling services you're not using, and using group policies to tighten security, but there is no 3rd party equivalent to keeping your Windows PC patches up to date.
kingdragonfly (309)
413763 2005-12-19 02:14:00 Thanks for the further comments. I use Firefox and Thunderbird also. I guess it is just a matter of reading all the comments and deciding for myself how to treat the updates. Pato (2463)
413764 2005-12-19 02:22:00 The only real hangup as I see it is when someone uses their puter for a while and gets hit by viri (plural?) and trojans and lots of other downloads, installs and deleted and then tries to patch things with SP-2 .

Sorry! Too late!

It is best to install SP-2 at the very start of the XP (2000 has it's own patches and updates too!) installation . This way the system gets it all up and running before you pollute it with baddies .

Most complaints are from those who don't follow the advice and just straightarm the patches and upgrades . . then when they do all hell breaks loose and they blame Micro$oft .


'Tain't fair to M$ for that type of response . IMHO, get on the wagon and get the updates and stuff they send . . . it makes the ehternet a much nicer place to be for all of us if you are running clean and innoculated . :thumbs:
SurferJoe46 (51)
413765 2005-12-19 04:31:00 I am inclined to follow your advice or perhaps just install critical updates as Tazz suggests. What is the 3rd party security you refer to?
Zone ALarm Pro
RegDefend
NOD32
Counterspy
AdAware
SPybot
Rootkit Remover
Hijackthis
Mozilla

Removed IE
Removed OE

Black Viper
pctek (84)
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