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| Thread ID: 137872 | 2014-08-31 08:34:00 | Hungry Kids | mzee (3324) | PC World Chat |
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| 1382883 | 2014-08-31 22:21:00 | I have yet to see one of these staving kids in NZ. If anything most in Sth Ak look overfed if anything. +1 Lack of a marmite sandwich at lunchtime does not make you starving. $1 for a loaf of bread, $5 for some marmite. Problem solved Jim Bolgers famous quote on this issue: 2 pieces of bread, some slices of cheese. If you value your kids, you will feed them. |
1101 (13337) | ||
| 1382884 | 2014-08-31 22:33:00 | Eating Marmite is the problem; Vegemite on the other hand (and face) . . . . . . ;) | R2x1 (4628) | ||
| 1382885 | 2014-08-31 23:44:00 | There are lots of starving kids in Africa, swollen bellies (Kwashiakor), weeping eyes, match stick limbs. I have never seen any like this in New Zealand. There are always hungry kids, but hungry is not starving, in fact the problem is more likely to be obesity. | mzee (3324) | ||
| 1382886 | 2014-09-01 01:17:00 | $1 for a loaf of bread, $5 for some marmite. Problem solved Actually it's not. It's why you get fat poor people. They live on cheap bread an potatoes. And taro probably. It's not exactly nutritious. Look: Job Seekers Married, civil union or de facto couple (with or without children) Weekly Net: $348.42 Pension Married or in a civil union or de facto relationship, both qualify Weekly Net: $638.46 Now, you see pensioners complain a lot, most, I grant you not all, don't have a mortgage anymore. The families do or have rent. The maximum accommodation allowance in Auckland is $125 a week, it does not matter what the rent is.....$300 a week, $600 a week, whatever....That's the max. Its considerably less in most other places except Christchurch. Don't know what your power bills are, my sons goes up to $500 a month or so in Winter. Yes, it's an electric heater. He did have a fireplace in the last rental, but not this one. Granddaughter has a lot of colds and gets asthma, although that hasn't been too bad now they have the heater rental - the last rental had a major mould problem which I'd say didn't help there. He can pay it, but then they're not on low income or benefits. You know unemployment was almost non-existant once......most people I know that are poor do work, but don't have the ability to cover all the bills. You get some appliance breakdown or whatever and it kills it. Public transport? It's not cheap in Auckland, it's slow and unreliable too. If I caught it, it would cost me $13.40 a day. Bugger that. It doesn't matter what you SEE, you don't SEE peoples budgets or situations, you just look at what you think is the case. Sure there are useless people, but they are not the majority. National keep on about how many jobs they "created". Uhuh, where, Christchurch? How many have been lost? I know Akld Uni is shedding staff like mad, and have been for the last 2 years, it's still ongoing. One of my friends colleagues lost his job there, lost his house (he'd divorced years back and was mortgaged), and he couldn't get another job, being 60 probably didn't help, so he hung himself. |
pctek (84) | ||
| 1382887 | 2014-09-01 03:44:00 | Well said pctec... Those who can't see what is happening re the working poor are willfully blind. A clear case of I'M ALL RIGHT JACK. | ruup (1827) | ||
| 1382888 | 2014-09-01 05:52:00 | There is jobs here but no housing spare. Catch 22 | gary67 (56) | ||
| 1382889 | 2014-09-01 08:31:00 | Problem is, while it may be good to feed the hungry, it just gives more families an excuse to further mis-direct the cash they do have... so more families will neglect to feed their kids on the basis that they'll be fed for free at school. Then those in a slightly less impoverished position will also look to exploit this hand-out that they don't actually need. Then those who are not struggling will get into the free feeds at school, and the problem of the nanny state snow-balls until all but private school toffs are getting a free breakfast and lunch 5+ days per week. Should your taxes be feeding the kids of people who find the cash for smokes and drinks each day of the week? And for those families already on a benefit: Should MORE of your taxes be feeding the kids of people who find the cash for smokes and drinks each week? Benefit amounts aren't pulled out of thin air. There's a lot of sweat goes into assessing what is an adequate amount, and a lot more sweat goes into assessing and addressing the needs of those who for one reason or another find that amount to be insufficient. First step if I had hungry kids because of the crazy city rents would be to move the family to a smaller city, or if in gainfull employment to move to a cheaper suburb / smaller home. AND to make sure there would be no more kids added to a family I was unable to properly support. At what point do some adults ever take financial responsibility for the possible consequences of their fornication? Each birth should result in proportionately more financial 'pain' for the parents, not greater and greater handouts that further dilute any desire to be responsible. |
Paul.Cov (425) | ||
| 1382890 | 2014-09-01 09:38:00 | Problem is, while it may be good to feed the hungry, it just gives more families an excuse to further mis-direct the cash they do have... so more families will neglect to feed their kids on the basis that they'll be fed for free at school. Then those in a slightly less impoverished position will also look to exploit this hand-out that they don't actually need. Then those who are not struggling will get into the free feeds at school, and the problem of the nanny state snow-balls until all but private school toffs are getting a free breakfast and lunch 5+ days per week. Should your taxes be feeding the kids of people who find the cash for smokes and drinks each day of the week? And for those families already on a benefit: Should MORE of your taxes be feeding the kids of people who find the cash for smokes and drinks each week? Benefit amounts aren't pulled out of thin air. There's a lot of sweat goes into assessing what is an adequate amount, and a lot more sweat goes into assessing and addressing the needs of those who for one reason or another find that amount to be insufficient. First step if I had hungry kids because of the crazy city rents would be to move the family to a smaller city, or if in gainfull employment to move to a cheaper suburb / smaller home. AND to make sure there would be no more kids added to a family I was unable to properly support. At what point do some adults ever take financial responsibility for the possible consequences of their fornication? Each birth should result in proportionately more financial 'pain' for the parents, not greater and greater handouts that further dilute any desire to be responsible. Hear Hear! |
DeSade (984) | ||
| 1382891 | 2014-09-01 10:01:00 | At what point do some adults ever take financial responsibility for the possible consequences of their fornication? Each birth should result in proportionately more financial 'pain' for the parents, not greater and greater handouts that further dilute any desire to be responsible. Well said, Paul. My take is we should look after the kiddies born now and dependant on the State for - in some cases - their survival. They exist and are with us through no fault of their own. These unfortunate kids are not at fault. They are the product of indiscriminate pairing by their parents. But let the parents of any future progeny be aware of their reponsibilities. Cease any benefit payments for new additions. Let the parents take reponsibility. And if all else fails give some thought to sterilisation to these feral breeders. |
WalOne (4202) | ||
| 1382892 | 2014-09-01 11:00:00 | Maybe we should bring in the Chinese policy of one child per family, no child per single person. | mzee (3324) | ||
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