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| Thread ID: 65171 | 2006-01-10 03:47:00 | windows Me - XP, cable is unplugged | Mirddes (10) | Press F1 |
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| 419675 | 2006-01-10 04:09:00 | No, Cat 6 cables can't be connected directly. It's a pair of pairs of wires, just like Cat 5. Some network cards can autodetect and internally switch the transmit and receive wires. Some routers and switches will also do this when connecting as a "backbone". But it's not compulsory. If two computers are connected directly, you must have a crossover cable, unless one of the cards has the autodetect capability. I'm not sure I would like to connect two with autodetect. :D |
Graham L (2) | ||
| 419676 | 2006-01-10 04:13:00 | Ok, my bad there Graham. I dont use CAT6 so wouldnt know anyway :D | Speedy Gonzales (78) | ||
| 419677 | 2006-01-10 04:38:00 | ok im how now so i can think better on this situation, i cant think of any info im missing, the ethernet card they have is the same as mine ($15). i think its ME not taking to the XP machine thats causing the problem. i kinda feel bad since i promised her it woudlnt take more than 5-10 min for me to fix and now its take a good 2-3 hrs, includign a trip into town to buy the ethernet card. |
Mirddes (10) | ||
| 419678 | 2006-01-10 04:45:00 | So, are you using a crossover cable or not? Or a hub? Thats what you have to find / figure out first. You'll need one or the other, before u get anywhere. And so both can see / talk to each other. Its either this or a firewall is stopping both from seeing each other. |
Speedy Gonzales (78) | ||
| 419679 | 2006-01-10 04:55:00 | patch i think. so they will need to get a crossover cable/adapter? they have zonealarm running on both machines. |
Mirddes (10) | ||
| 419680 | 2006-01-10 04:58:00 | If you are getting that "cable unplugged" message, it's a cable problem. That is an unambiguous message, and it's almost guaranteed to be correct. It's got nothing to do with Me and XP. The hardware is detecting that the transmit and receive pins aren't connected to receive and transmit pins respectively. The TCP/IP software knows it can't work like that, so the operating systems don't even try. Your $15 cards are probably fine. But not autodecting. Your home system works because your laptop must have an autodetect interface. Because it won't work with a straight cable unless at least one end has an autodetect interface. (Maybe your long CAT6 cable is a crossover -- that's the other possibility. :D Your switch might automatically correct back). |
Graham L (2) | ||
| 419681 | 2006-01-10 05:18:00 | Find out whether it's a straight cable. Hold it with the plugs side by side, the cable to the bottom, and the latches facing away from you. You can see colours on the wire insulation. The pins are numbered 1 ...8 with them held like that. Pins 1 and 2, 3 and 6 are the two pairs which matter. If pin 1 goes to pin 1, pin 2 goes to pin 2, 3 to 3, and 6 to 6 it's straight. If 1 goes to 3, 2 goes to 6, 3 to 1, and 6 to 2 it's a crossover. |
Graham L (2) | ||
| 419682 | 2006-01-10 05:33:00 | thanks for the help, ill just test it 2moro with a crossover adaptor and then recommend that they get an adaptor or cable (which ever is less) | Mirddes (10) | ||
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