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| Thread ID: 65442 | 2006-01-18 04:13:00 | After a better firewall cheap | Eric (378) | Press F1 |
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| 422135 | 2006-01-19 07:57:00 | I can't be average then ...... :) Oddly, my bank account hasn't been emptied out.... The good old trojans could just hijack your firewall anyway. I don't bother with anti-virus all the time either. Ignorance is bliss :thumbs: I find that most firewalls would be too complex for the average person and they'd just end up allowing all connections anyway (or turn it off). a few trojens can "hack" your firewall. there is a few which simply click on the ok buttons of the firewall to let itself through. thats why ZA has the ZA client protection". others no doubt have similar protection built in. your right about being complex (who on earth wants to learn icmp and ports settings) which is why ZA is best for basic users (dispite its hoggy gui). you can't get much simplier than yes or no. i find most people learn fairly quickly, the $$$ cost of getting a pc fixed is enough to make them get off their butts and learn. it has the nice side affect that they are more aware of what their pc is doing. |
tweak'e (69) | ||
| 422136 | 2006-01-19 18:37:00 | I can't be average then . . . . . . :) Oddly, my bank account hasn't been emptied out . . . . The good old trojans could just hijack your firewall anyway . I don't bother with anti-virus all the time either . Ignorance is bliss :thumbs: I find that most firewalls would be too complex for the average person and they'd just end up allowing all connections anyway (or turn it off) . I haven't personally seen a Trojan hijack a firewall yet, however certainly seen firewalls blocking trojans . I do however agree many if not all the 3rd party firewalls may be to complex for some users . I deal with people that can't copy and paste, you show them carefully . . . . . . . . . . a week later they have forgotten again (just utterly computer illiterate), and no real interest to learn . Give them a firewall that asks them a lot of complicated looking questions is like pointing a 45 at your head, at the very least the Windows XP firewall can be enabled for people like this . If you have a glimmer of hope, then get a 3rd party firewall, it really is worth it . |
Battleneter (60) | ||
| 422137 | 2006-01-19 19:33:00 | Heh, I can't understand the "obsession" with firewalls . External router has its firewall turned on and portforwarding . XP Firewall is good enough for internal use . I can be bothered with controlling outward connections . . Well if you had been one of the "lucky ones" to have received an email from the Labour Department ( . nzherald . co . nz/section/story . cfm?c_id=5&ObjectID=10364437" target="_blank">www . nzherald . co . nz) recently chances are you would have trusted it and downloaded/installed the trojan onto your PC when you clicked on the link . Your AV may or most likely may not have detected the trojan but if you had a firewall installed you most very likely would have got the wind up when the firewall started bugging you about allowing X program out onto the net and done some further investigating . With no third-party software firewall watching what was going out you would have been blissfully unaware of anything happening and would have been a prime candidate for getting your bank account cleaned out after the next time you logged on to it . ;) Is that good enough reason for a third-party firewall or not? :thumbs: |
FoxyMX (5) | ||
| 422138 | 2006-01-19 20:01:00 | Well if you had been one of the "lucky ones" to have received an email from the Labour Department ( . nzherald . co . nz/section/story . cfm?c_id=5&ObjectID=10364437" target="_blank">www . nzherald . co . nz) recently chances are you would have trusted it and downloaded/installed the trojan onto your PC when you clicked on the link . Your AV may or most likely may not have detected the trojan but if you had a firewall installed you most very likely would have got the wind up when the firewall started bugging you about allowing X program out onto the net and done some further investigating . With no third-party software firewall watching what was going out you would have been blissfully unaware of anything happening and would have been a prime candidate for getting your bank account cleaned out after the next time you logged on to it . ;) Is that good enough reason for a third-party firewall or not? :thumbs: Not enough detail in the story, to figure out what is going on . I'm assuming that the email links to a bad website and installs a trojan through either an IE flaw or the WMF vulnerability . I don't use IE and applied workarounds for the WMF flaw until the official patch came out . Ah, these trojans need to be a bit more smarter then and send out your details through the email program you use . :lol: My bank account only gets cleaned out by bills . Not a good enough reason for a firewall . |
gibler (49) | ||
| 422139 | 2006-01-19 20:48:00 | Not a bad article about firewalls. A bit old but still relavent. Covers most of the arguments www.informationweek.com Ian |
i-gordon (962) | ||
| 422140 | 2006-01-20 01:39:00 | READ The FOLLOWING Microsoft AntiSpyware: In a classic case of "better late than never," Microsoft last winter released a beta version of its free antispyware tool. Based on the respected Giant AntiSpyware product, Microsoft AntiSpyware offers a capable spyware scan and removal engine that has proven superior to popular freeware offerings like Ad-Aware and Spybot Search and Destroy. Microsoft AntiSpyware goes even further, letting you purge Internet caches, recently used file lists, and cookie files to better ensure your privacy.Microsoft AntiSpyware: In a classic case of "better late than never," Microsoft last winter released a beta version of its free antispyware tool. Based on the respected Giant AntiSpyware product, Microsoft AntiSpyware offers a capable spyware scan and removal engine that has proven superior to popular freeware offerings like Ad-Aware and Spybot Search and Destroy. Microsoft AntiSpyware goes even further, letting you purge Internet caches, recently used file lists, and cookie files to better ensure your privacy. I don't have enough knowledge to say MICROSOFT SPYWARE is the best but even in it's BETA version I have had no trouble ever and it is constantly updating but never a problem yet. Notice it is connected to GIANT a compnay noted for ERROR NUKER and very well used overeas software. And it is FREE.. :p |
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