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| 422125 | 2006-01-19 03:16:00 | Regarding ZoneAlarm it can be set to ask about every service / program trying to get out. However there's a feature when first install that says something to the affect, "scan the PC and add common programs to the safe list." |
kingdragonfly (309) | ||
| 422126 | 2006-01-19 03:32:00 | unfortunatly with ZA free even if you tell it to NOT to let those programs access it still lets them through (you can go change it afterwoulds). a bit of idiot proofing i guess, in typical MS style :( | tweak'e (69) | ||
| 422127 | 2006-01-19 04:12:00 | Yep Sygate free makes ZA look like a hunk of junk, actually no wait ZA is a hunk of junk!. ZA is the Nortons antivirus of firewalls (well known but crap). Sygate free fully configurable and doesnt hog your resources. |
Battleneter (60) | ||
| 422128 | 2006-01-19 04:32:00 | Regarding ZoneAlarm it can be set to ask about every service / program trying to get out . That may be so but from memory (it was about 12 months ago that I last looked at ZA) I didn't have any option to prevent certain Windows XP services trying to get out . I only knew about these services because I had previously been running Sygate which did ask permission for them . There hasn't been any detrimental effect in blocking them either . ZA is fine for those who want an "idiot proof" (to borrow tweake's phrase) firewall but I like to have total control over mine without too much fuss . It just seems to be easier to have total control in Sygate than in ZA . |
FoxyMX (5) | ||
| 422129 | 2006-01-19 05:19:00 | That may be so but from memory (it was about 12 months ago that I last looked at ZA) I didn't have any option to prevent certain Windows XP services trying to get out . I only knew about these services because I had previously been running Sygate which did ask permission for them . There hasn't been any detrimental effect in blocking them either . ZA is fine for those who want an "idiot proof" (to borrow tweake's phrase) firewall but I like to have total control over mine without too much fuss . It just seems to be easier to have total control in Sygate than in ZA . ZA doesn't port forward properly either , so ZA is not fine under any circumstances for anyone in my books . |
Battleneter (60) | ||
| 422130 | 2006-01-19 05:35:00 | ZA doesn't port forward properly either , so ZA is not fine under any circumstances for anyone in my books. o god not this again :groan: there is no such thing as "port forward" in firewalls. the feature your referring to is in the pro ver not the free ver. yet again someone complaining a free product hasn't got xyz feature the paid ver has. |
tweak'e (69) | ||
| 422131 | 2006-01-19 05:43:00 | Heh, I can't understand the "obsession" with firewalls. External router has its firewall turned on and portforwarding. XP Firewall is good enough for internal use. I can be bothered with controlling outward connections.. I've yet to see many OS X users who are actually using the firewall much for example. So why does everyone get excited about them (are they installed loads of untrusted software or something?) ? :waughh: |
gibler (49) | ||
| 422132 | 2006-01-19 05:49:00 | o god not this again :groan: there is no such thing as "port forward" in firewalls. the feature your referring to is in the pro ver not the free ver. yet again someone complaining a free product hasn't got xyz feature the paid ver has. I appreciate you have trouble understanding common industry phases and concepts, you do need to keep up to understand. ZA Free version causes P2P problems that cannot be solved on some apps. Sygate Free version does not. Feel free to call Port fowarding "FRIED CHICKEN/open port" if you like tweak, either way ZA does not do this well. |
Battleneter (60) | ||
| 422133 | 2006-01-19 06:42:00 | Heh, I can't understand the "obsession" with firewalls . External router has its firewall turned on and portforwarding . XP Firewall is good enough for internal use . I can be bothered with controlling outward connections . . I've yet to see many OS X users who are actually using the firewall much for example . So why does everyone get excited about them (are they installed loads of untrusted software or something?) ? :waughh: without controlling outbound connections your basicly kissing goodbye to passwords, bank details etc that the trojen just sent out . o yes don't forget helping to spread virus's, worms and help crooks steal from people . . . . thanks :thumbs: basicly, yes, the average users install TONS of untrusted malious software on a regular basis, its the most comman problem with pc's today . years ago most of it was so badly written it cripelled peoples pc's . today it better written so most don't know its lurking in the background . AV can miss alot of it but a good firewall will pick it up, which at the very least will alert the user and hopefully (if they block it) will stop it spreading or sending off any info . but hey, ignorance is bliss . . . . . well untill they empty our back account etc :p |
tweak'e (69) | ||
| 422134 | 2006-01-19 07:05:00 | without controlling outbound connections your basicly kissing goodbye to passwords, bank details etc that the trojen just sent out . o yes don't forget helping to spread virus's, worms and help crooks steal from people . . . . thanks :thumbs: basicly, yes, the average users install TONS of untrusted malious software on a regular basis, its the most comman problem with pc's today . years ago most of it was so badly written it cripelled peoples pc's . today it better written so most don't know its lurking in the background . AV can miss alot of it but a good firewall will pick it up, which at the very least will alert the user and hopefully (if they block it) will stop it spreading or sending off any info . but hey, ignorance is bliss . . . . . well untill they empty our back account etc :p I can't be average then . . . . . . :) Oddly, my bank account hasn't been emptied out . . . . The good old trojans could just hijack your firewall anyway . I don't bother with anti-virus all the time either . Ignorance is bliss :thumbs: I find that most firewalls would be too complex for the average person and they'd just end up allowing all connections anyway (or turn it off) . |
gibler (49) | ||
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