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| Thread ID: 139187 | 2015-03-24 13:33:00 | Asus N55u Access point University Set Up HELP | kas (17352) | Press F1 |
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| 1397185 | 2015-03-26 11:31:00 | How is that router connected to the network ? is the adsl port/plug used: if so its just a generic modem connection (probably) perhaps that router is setup in some sort of repeater/mesh mode ? If you think its the whole network that has issues, then there is really no fix you can do yourself anyway. get together as many users as possible, and on mass, email IT support,university management & the student association with your concerns If you are paying for wifi/internet, make it known to IT that it is not fit for purpose , and demand a refund of all the money you have paid . The router is probably connected to a switch and its in the middle of the hall. There is one in every block so quite a few. Just has one ethernet wire going into it |
kas (17352) | ||
| 1397186 | 2015-03-26 11:33:00 | My take on this is he has an ethernet port in his room, there is no need for a WAN port. I also would doubt they are using ADSL/VDSL. It will be a standard Ethernet connection back to a switch. Yes i agree i think thats what the set up is, i could use the Ethernet port in my room but it is a inconvience as i cant move my laptop around, im short of space and it makes it all messy with wires and lastly because i cant connect with Ethernet to xbox as i am required to sign in. Thats why i wanted my own little hotspot. |
kas (17352) | ||
| 1397187 | 2015-03-26 11:36:00 | At my University hall, we have an ethernet jack in the wall. The computer works plugged directly into it once you login to ResNet. Now what the issue with plugging the router in *after* already connecting the computer, is that you are only allowed one MAC address - which is why I got an error when plugging the router in. So the work around is to clone the router mac address with the PC and plug it in and works perfectly. Ethernet in wall -> WAN port in router, >wired back to computer using LAN port. Yes thats how its set up in my uni, so what will i be required to do? find the mac address and copy that to my router? from then on can i just use it wirelessly without wiring to the router? |
kas (17352) | ||
| 1397188 | 2015-03-26 21:39:00 | In order to plug a router into the ethernet port and use it as a switch or access point the router being connected needs to have WAN functionality. It's a fairly common thing to see a wan port on a router for just this reason and any router without a DSL modem has to have one but for combination modem/router devices it's less common. There's no need for any of this, the OP can just use an ethernet cable. That doesn't mean it not worth trying for more convenient internet access though and his N55U does appear to be capable of it if the existing network setup will allow it. Sounds like the supplied Wi-Fi just needs fixing really though. No it doesn't. He isn't connecting to a WAN, he's connecting to a LAN, his Asus box needs to do no Layer 3 work, it's all Layer 2. In reality all he is doing is connecting one switch to another. The WAN port is there to, well, connect to a WAN. In NZ that could be a DSL/Cable Modem or a UFB ONT. |
Alex B (15479) | ||
| 1397189 | 2015-03-26 22:27:00 | You're getting too caught up on unimportant terminology Alex, we're getting sidetracked arguing semantics and not helping the problem. The WAN port IS what connects upstream from a router towards the internet = WAN, towards the local network = LAN. You can't just connect a LAN ethernet port from a DSL Modem/Router to another Modem or switch to get internet connectivity FROM unless that port can be configured as a WAN port. Technically the upstream port on a switch also becomes a WAN port even if it's functionally the same as all the rest. For example with the N55U in question, it has a VDSL port for internet and dual band wireless and 4 GigE ethernet ports for the local LAN. Normally the VDSL port faces the WAN and the rest are all LAN ports. In order to use it as an access point or in my case as a router fed from a separate modem in bridge mode you have to reconfigure one of the LAN ports to become a WAN port and let another device be the modem. Asus call this Dual WAN functionality in the firmware as it also gives you the ability to set a failover network connection. The layer stuff is something I always forget the meaning of but WAN/LAN is easy, one is towards the outside world and one is towards the local network. I come from a telcommunications background and we always used different terminology for what is referred to as "layers" in the IT world. |
dugimodo (138) | ||
| 1397190 | 2015-03-26 22:59:00 | OK, you need to stop thinking of this as a little home user network, because it isn't. Forget modems, there are none involved. Forget routers or routing, that is the job of the university network. All he needs is for the N55u to act as a dumb switch and an wireless access point. Once again, all he is doing is connecting the university's switch to his own switch which is perfectly fine from a technical stand point. The uni network will be something like Fiber to Uni Firewall > Uni Router > Uni Core Switching > Uni Proxy > Uni End Point switch > Kas's Asus Switch. With all sorts of fun bits in between. The routing aspect has been taken care of long before it gets to the little ASUS box. |
Alex B (15479) | ||
| 1397191 | 2015-03-26 23:16:00 | And yet still unless you configure 1 of the 4 ports to be a WAN port it will not accept any IP addresses issued by the network or work as a switch or access point. The N55U is not a simple switch or access point and is not set to work that way by default. | dugimodo (138) | ||
| 1397192 | 2015-03-26 23:18:00 | All you need to do is turn off DHCP like I said on page 1 or 2 and it will act as a dumb switch/AP. | Alex B (15479) | ||
| 1397193 | 2015-03-26 23:25:00 | I surrender, you may be right but that's not the case on the one I have with the firmware that's on it. If you simply turn off DHCP and connect it like you say nothing works. | dugimodo (138) | ||
| 1397194 | 2015-03-27 00:00:00 | I surrender, you may be right but that's not the case on the one I have with the firmware that's on it. If you simply turn off DHCP and connect it like you say nothing works. One thing to remember, scroll back and look at what was written post#27 :D Two years,-- Can change a lot of things. Most modem/routers can be turned into Switches or access points these days. |
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