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Thread ID: 138065	2014-09-30 07:18:00	Commies	prefect (6291)	PC World Chat

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1385143	2014-10-03 02:06:00	Haven't I said before that resorting to name calling just means you lost the argument? ;)	pcuser42 (130)
1385144	2014-10-03 02:08:00	I dont know what churlish means . Just saying A sad confession, but a dictionary would help you with that Prefect (there are plenty on line) just as it would help you also to understand why, as a result of their policies, the present government could also be referred to as commies (or perhaps commie lovers), as you so sensitively label those with whom you do not agree . Noun: Socialism Definition: A political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole . Noun: Communism Definition: A political and economic system where all property is public and people work and are given things by the government according to their needs . So, all communists are by definition socialists, but all socialists are not communists . Now, -take a few deep breaths to oxygenate your brain, then try to understand the difference . It may have escaped your stunted understanding of political systems Prefect, but the definition of communism embodies more than a few striking characteristics of the behaviour and policies of the current government . To be absolutely fair, there are marked similarities between the policies of both main NZ parties, except that under National policies, the ownership of production, distribution, and exchange moves substantively toward those with capital to spare and the benefits gained from the production process recede rapidly from those who actually carry out that production . However, over recent years, both ownership and the role of production has substantively been off-loaded to China and other mass market producers, which means that employees do not earn the income in NZ to afford on our home market the goods they produce and export, and we no longer have the range of production facilities within NZ to provide adequate local employment, as our many dead rural communities can testify . We are all at fault to some extent, due largely to our rampant worship of consumerism, and the gotta have it NOW! syndrome, which keeps the Usurers in business and helps the needy to become needier . No need to thank me, it was my pleasure . Cheers Billy 8-{) :rolleyes:	Billy T (70)
1385145	2014-10-03 02:32:00	Interesting what names infer... as a commentator was saying re the Scottish independence movement before their Yes/No vote. "The Scots are a very Nationalistic race of people who, if they gain independence, will probably vote in a Socialist government. So, a National Socialist Party? WAIT, WHERE HAVE WE HEARD THAT NAME BEFORE????" Ken :devil	kenj (9738)
1385146	2014-10-03 04:16:00	Interesting what names infer... as a commentator was saying re the Scottish independence movement before their Yes/No vote. "The Scots are a very Nationalistic race of people who, if they gain independence, will probably vote in a Socialist government. So, a National Socialist Party? WAIT, WHERE HAVE WE HEARD THAT NAME BEFORE????" Ken :devil Lol	prefect (6291)
1385147	2014-10-03 04:30:00	A sad confession, but a dictionary would help you with that Prefect (there are plenty on line) just as it would help you also to understand why, as a result of their policies, the present government could also be referred to as commies (or perhaps commie lovers), as you so sensitively label those with whom you do not agree . Noun: Socialism Definition: A political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole . Noun: Communism Definition: A political and economic system where all property is public and people work and are given things by the government according to their needs . So, all communists are by definition socialists, but all socialists are not communists . Now, -take a few deep breaths to oxygenate your brain, then try to understand the difference . It may have escaped your stunted understanding of political systems Prefect, but the definition of communism embodies more than a few striking characteristics of the behaviour and policies of the current government . To be absolutely fair, there are marked similarities between the policies of both main NZ parties, except that under National policies, the ownership of production, distribution, and exchange moves substantively toward those with capital to spare and the benefits gained from the production process recede rapidly from those who actually carry out that production . However, over recent years, both ownership and the role of production has substantively been off-loaded to China and other mass market producers, which means that employees do not earn the income in NZ to afford on our home market the goods they produce and export, and we no longer have the range of production facilities within NZ to provide adequate local employment, as our many dead rural communities can testify . We are all at fault to some extent, due largely to our rampant worship of consumerism, and the gotta have it NOW! syndrome, which keeps the Usurers in business and helps the needy to become needier . No need to thank me, it was my pleasure . Cheers Billy 8-{) :rolleyes: You can imply I am a dumb **** I dont care, but the labor party song is the red flag . If it has feathers, a bill, webbed feet and quacks its a duck . I was going to say has wings but I have seen flightless ducks on an island just off Campbell Island .	prefect (6291)
1385148	2014-10-03 05:00:00	I think a lot of the Labour politicians would love to get away from the Party influence. If you took the blue collar unions and the teachers out of the equation, Labour would be quite like the Nats. Unfortunately, that is where their voting base comes from. Fancy having the system where the unions and party members hav a 69% say in who becomes the parliamentary leader. A system that could return Cunliffe to his old job. Between a rock and a hard place I think. Ken	kenj (9738)
1385149	2014-10-03 05:18:00	I suspect Pre is using Commie as a derogatory name for the labour party with their propensity for favoring the nanny state.	Cicero (40)
1385150	2014-10-03 06:18:00	Y but the labor party song is the red flag . So going by the wording, can National actually be called a bunch of Tories - their color is Blue ? the Tory Party or the Tories, is a centre-right political party I'll answer my own Question . (Danby was the first Tory Leader) Danby was a master at management and he used the position he had in politics to advance those who he felt would best support his policies . So change Danby to Key -- And yep you have what we currently have .	wainuitech (129)
1385151	2014-10-03 06:45:00	Ah but if you criticize the dear leader the fanbois start collecting the stones for a good stoning. Admittedly you need a good stoning from time to time but it should be politicians on the receiving end.	gary67 (56)
1385152	2014-10-03 06:56:00	OMG Gary, :eek: I think you may have stumbled onto something here. Key seems to have a forgetful memory when it suits, isn't that a effect of people who get "Stoned" all the time? ;) Oh well if the Tories are happy - good on them :)	wainuitech (129)
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