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Thread ID: 137957 2014-09-14 09:19:00 Moment of truth plod (107) PC World Chat
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1383952 2014-09-15 22:46:00 Just a drop in the bucket, so to speak
You can guarentee the NSA have tapped into our Pacific Cable
en.wikipedia.org
"The office of New Zealand Prime Minister John Key, denied the claims but admitted that they were negotiating a "cable access programme" with the NSA but refused to clarify what that was or why the NSA was involved"

www.stuff.co.nz
"....technicians have been installing specialist spying devices and software inside all telephone exchanges, internet companies and even fibre-optic data networks between cities and towns, providing police and spy agencies with the capability to monitor almost all communications. "

Yahoo ordred to hand over data
www.theregister.co.uk _fine/

Lavabit shut down rather than play ball . Perhaps thats what happened with trucrypt
en.wikipedia.org

Bottom line: this is the sort level of spying on the general public that the Stasi were doing in Communist East Germany
So our govt & the US are no better than the hated Stasi ??
1101 (13337)
1383953 2014-09-16 00:15:00 The powers that be are doing this for our own good, if you are innocent you have nothing to fear. zqwerty (97)
1383954 2014-09-16 00:19:00 Govt and business working together hand in glove is more reminiscent of Nazism (National Socialism) than Communism, the continuous push towards perfection (unobtainable of course) is also a reminder of Nazi behaviour. zqwerty (97)
1383955 2014-09-16 00:23:00 The true revelatory 'Moment of Truth' is that NZ has been heading in the wrong direction for the last 34 years.

John Key is just another willing pawn in the USA right wing game.
zqwerty (97)
1383956 2014-09-16 00:44:00 T...
John Key is just another willing pawn in the USA right wing game.

True. The USA is just too strong for the rest of the world (other than Russia & China) to say NO.
bk T (215)
1383957 2014-09-16 00:53:00 The powers that be are doing this for our own good, if you are innocent you have nothing to fear.Quite agree, thats why JK let the cup of tea recording be released to the public. plod (107)
1383958 2014-09-16 01:00:00 The powers that be are doing this for our own good, if you are innocent you have nothing to fear.

Not true at all.
Why is this deemed so bad in dictatorships but deemed OK in NZ/US
Learn from history.....the innocent are often targeted just because they have a different viewpoint, different religion/beliefs, are too publicly vocal expressing their views


The changes of all this personal info being misused are pretty high.
Allready there have been cases in NZ of Govt employees using access to personal info for there own personal use,
one govt employee used access to person info as she had a vendetta against the person involved.
another gave info to a Private Investigator mate of his.

Even Muldoon used his power to access & release info on his political 'enemies' , but at least he openly admitted it.
1101 (13337)
1383959 2014-09-16 01:54:00 @1101, I think you may have missed the sarcasm.................:banana Terry Porritt (14)
1383960 2014-09-16 02:18:00 @1101, I think you may have missed the sarcasm.................:banana

It's hard to detect sarcasm on the internet :banana
pcuser42 (130)
1383961 2014-09-16 02:56:00 Just a drop in the bucket, so to speak
You can guarentee the NSA have tapped into our Pacific Cable
en.wikipedia.org
"The office of New Zealand Prime Minister John Key, denied the claims but admitted that they were negotiating a "cable access programme" with the NSA but refused to clarify what that was or why the NSA was involved"

www.stuff.co.nz
". ...technicians have been installing specialist spying devices and software inside all telephone exchanges, internet companies and even fibre-optic data networks between cities and towns, providing police and spy agencies with the capability to monitor almost all communications. "

Yahoo ordred to hand over data
www.theregister.co.uk _fine/

Lavabit shut down rather than play ball . Perhaps thats what happened with trucrypt
en.wikipedia.org

Bottom line: this is the sort level of spying on the general public that the Stasi were doing in Communist East Germany
So our govt & the US are no better than the hated Stasi ??

+1 and you would have to be very naive to think that with all the Government Department data matching and the fact that the police have been quite proud about catching the likes of Paedophiles by tracking their Web browsing habits, that you aren’t being monitored.

The reality is you would be lucky to be able to walk the length of a Main Street anywhere in this country without being monitored one way or another. Struth, you get photographed every store you go in, every ATM you draw money from, there are street surveillance cameras everywhere, even your cellphone is telling someone where you are.

And just to give another example of your privacy, a Policeman I knew offered a service to Landlords whereby for a Koha he would use the Police Computer to check out prospective tenants. He didn’t give a written report, but, “Known to police, as is the whole family”, or “Only likely to be a short term tenant before he becomes ours” was sufficient for most Landlords. ;)

In the end you are being monitored, regardless of what Key says and whether you like it or not, so you might as well get used to it. ;)
B.M. (505)
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