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423770 2006-01-24 18:33:00 Best and most pertinant comment I've seen for a long time.

Some people should at least buy up to date mags before giving authorative opinions.
Yeah best to buy latest PC mag as these include some reviews about PC components...
Mr Wetzyl (362)
423771 2006-01-24 19:09:00 I'm looking at the Feb 2006 issue of PCMagazine right here, and yes, the X800 XL is better then the GeForce 6600GT OC by 9 points in ratings .

I also see that the EVGA e-GeForce 6800 GS smoked the 6600 by a few points . . but the best beating is the price:

EVGA e-GeForce 6800 GS . . . . . . . . . . . $200US . . . . . Rating: 88
ATI All-In-Wonder X800 XL . . . . . . . . . $299US . . . . . Rating: 87
BFG Tech GeForce 6600GT OC . . . . . $180US . . . . . Rating: 78
PNY GeForce 6600 GT . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $165US . . . . . Rating: 77
SurferJoe46 (51)
423772 2006-01-24 19:35:00 6800 GS is great, unfortunately it is about $400 NZ, while the 6600 GT has just got cheaper over time, and has had a while to get cheaper. QMB has one for $235 I think. mejobloggs (264)
423773 2006-01-25 01:43:00 You know Battlenetter and JJJJ, instead of reading advertiser sponsored PC magazines maybe you guys should actually read some unbiased reviews.

Reliable means reliable across a number of motherboards, both Intel and AMD varieties.

I stand by my statement.
kingdragonfly (309)
423774 2006-01-25 01:58:00 You know instead of reading advertiser sponsored PC magazines maybe you guys should actually read some unbiased reviews.

Reliable means reliable across a number of motherboards, both Intel and AMD varieties.

I stand by my statement.

And where do you get this reliable and unbiassed advice from?
The opinions I value are those who actually use the device in question. But this is only an opinion on one device.
People who have a Raedon say it is good.
People who have the other one say their's is the best.
I think in actual fact one is as good as the other in equal price range.
So toss up.
Still boils down to how much you have to spend. Then it's still a toss up.
JJJJJ (528)
423775 2006-01-25 02:10:00 Built hundreds of comps, used many many ATI and nVidia cards, never seen any of the issues that Kingfly mentions. If a computer is unstable then it needs to fixed.

If its due to overclocking then its a moot point, Tone it down a bit and carry on.

If anything the build quality of the latest ATI cards seems to be better then the Nvidia's but I may be imagining that, They certainly don't seem to be cheap and tacky.

And I will make no mention of the coolers of the 6600GT range breaking their seal and causing overheating issues.


Perhaps Im reading the wrong magazines.....
Metla (12)
423776 2006-01-25 02:10:00 There's probably no such thing as completely unbiased reviewing, however I like OverClockers.co.nz first. I like the fact they'll occasionally review things that they don't actually sell.

Tomshardware.com is good, but there standards seem to be slipping. I really like their CPU reviews. They've also changed their policy regarding reviewing video card before release. I hate all the advertising though.

Some PC magazines are very badly biased toward advertisers I found.
kingdragonfly (309)
423777 2006-01-25 02:37:00 difference between pixel shader 2.1 and 3.0 (ati and nvidia for the generation being discussed)

pixel shader 3.0 code runs faster than the same pixel shader 2.x code and looks exactly the same visually. untill you enable HDR - high dynamic range lighting- at which point even a 6800ultra is brought to its knees, like 10-20fps
or atleast in farcry. overall teh 6000 series isnt good with hdr and thats one of teh biggest iomprovements the 7000 series made.
certian implimentations of hdr affect performance differently, id imagine source implimentation woudl be slightly less of a hit.
gar this post sounded really good in my head and now ive ruined it.
now i was supposed to say something abuot the future and 3.0 lasting longer, or somethign like that, but visually theres no difference without HDR which performs like crap on the midrange 6000 seires cards such as teh 6600/gt
iirc the 7300 was just released. and theres also the midrange x1600 from ati
the x1300 is abuot the same price as teh 6600gt and x700 (goign by us prices since im lazy) and doesnt perform anywhere near as well; at some points being 10-20% slower.

another post ruined.
Mirddes (10)
423778 2006-01-25 02:48:00 NVidia has a reputation of being more robust / stable than ATI.

A motherboard with the nvidia chipset and a nvidia PCIe board promises to be very stable.

haha. ATI drivers have been proven to be more stable. A fact.
gibler (49)
423779 2006-01-25 02:55:00 You'd think I was questioning some people parentage by saying nVidia is more reliable . notice I didn't say better performing; I said more reliable .

Remember it's not the size of your video card, it's how you use it .
kingdragonfly (309)
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