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| Thread ID: 65700 | 2006-01-27 10:59:00 | Toshiba or Sony Laptop ? | learning (5137) | Press F1 |
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| 424651 | 2006-01-28 21:42:00 | I just couldn't trust Sony again after their hidden rootkit debacle. If they're capable of DRM rootkits on their CDs, what else might they hide in your brand new computer? When we bought a new TV we didn't even LOOK at Sony as boycotts are the only way consumers can really let corporate vultures know we disapprove of underhanded tactics. It's ultimately your choice but personally, I'd choose the Toshiba for the above reason. |
kakapo (5362) | ||
| 424652 | 2006-01-28 22:21:00 | I've had a Toshiba Tecra S1 for the last two years. It's been returned for repair four times during that period. Once to replace the modem, once to replace the keyboard and twice to replace the harddrive. This laptop is supplied by my employer and several of my colleagues have experienced multiple hardware failures with the same model of Toshiba laptops. I would steer clear of Toshiba given these experiences. The company has now switched to Dell and I've just been given a Dell Latitude D810. I'll be intersted to see how reliable it is. |
Mackin_NZ (6958) | ||
| 424653 | 2006-01-29 06:04:00 | Thanks for the informative reply Joe, Better informed now about laptop Display etc. Sadly i wont be buying a laptop anytime soon. Maybe in May/June this year. I went to Harvey Norman today to purchase the sony laptop and unfortunately they told me that they dont have it in store and cannot order it as its discontinued model. That realy ticked me off as i had been into the store few days ago and the salesperson i spoke to said no problem, they can order it for me. What a waste of time and all the posts i had to do on PF1. When i told them that Sony NZ do have it and i have seen it in Showrom they told me that they deal with Sony Singapore for their stock. They have the next model up (VGNS56GPS) which has a 2.13GH CPU and 100GB hdd and costs $3299 but i cant pay that much and was wanting to get it on HP with int free deal which Sony NZ dont offer. So i hope that prices may come down in next few months and then maybe i can get a similar model for about the same price i was initially looking for Thanks for all the info you guys have given. |
learning (5137) | ||
| 424654 | 2006-01-29 06:58:00 | If you have access to the laptop before purchasing. I would suggest you have a JPG file on a floppy disk or a flash drive - USB. Open file on the laptop at the store or your friends if they have one. Remember how the colors look like. Compare that to your own current computer that is a CRT or LCD monitor. Laptop and to a extent still but less desktop LCDs they tend to be different thus when you get a print at home or at the lab they will be quite bit different. When I edit photo's before print I always use my laptop via a CRT monitor. If you have a printout made previously take that filename and open on the intended laptop and have the printout as a reference to compare. My laptop to me is less saturated, a bit foggy and more bright/glary. |
Nomad (952) | ||
| 424655 | 2006-01-29 07:13:00 | Personally I woudn't touch a Toshiba. At the High School I work at most of the Teachers lease Laptops from the Ministry of Education...Unfortunately all of these laptops are Toshiba. Our Computer Technician spends most of his time fixing the bugs on the damn things!! If you do buy the Toshiba watch the power pack on it...they have a tendancy to crack on the plasitic casing. This has happened 5 times in the last year. | flaash (9700) | ||
| 424656 | 2006-01-29 07:23:00 | If you have access to the laptop before purchasing . I would suggest you have a JPG file on a floppy disk or a flash drive - USB . Open file on the laptop at the store or your friends if they have one . Remember how the colors look like . Compare that to your own current computer that is a CRT or LCD monitor . Laptop and to a extent still but less desktop LCDs they tend to be different thus when you get a print at home or at the lab they will be quite bit different . When I edit photo's before print I always use my laptop via a CRT monitor . If you have a printout made previously take that filename and open on the intended laptop and have the printout as a reference to compare . My laptop to me is less saturated, a bit foggy and more bright/glary . AS a photography enthusiast I cannot agree with you . Pictures look different on every computer screen simply because every computer screen has different settings and every printer has different colour setting (CMYK, RGB, photo lab = full range) . Calibration is the key, and digital shutterbugs will always recommend calibration every month . Also, for different monitors there is something called "ICC Profile" which is attached with picture files for photo-editing on Photoshop which saves the setting on your monitor into your picture (much like EXIF although EXIF is embedded, but I'm not familiar with ICC profiling at all) . IF you are printing off a photo lab/printer/kiosk, usually print off one print and compare it to your monitor until the colour tone matches to that of your computer, then edit your picture until the colour is that of what you want to be printed off . simply go there every time you want to print . If you have the guts, and if you intend to print more than 50 pictures show your memory media to whoever is in charge, ask the person in charge whether you can print off 1 shot for free so that you can calibrate your monitor to that of the printer . Anyone who understand what you're talking about (monitor calibration is not really such a well-known issue though, and any sales person who claims there is no such thing as monitor calibration should be shot . ) will probably let you get away with it . Same rules go to your printer . (A programme on TV3 a few months ago had a very flawed presentation on pictures printed off various shot, but the fact is if you know what you are doing Kodak Kiosk can be great too) . Calibrate the brightness and contrast of your monitor until the colour tone is similar, then edit your picture using that setting . As a general rule CRT monitors are always easier to calibrate than LCD monitors (go CRT go!) and also has more display vibrancy, but unless you are a digital/ professional photographer don't worry about it . So don't let screen setting put you off towards your dream laptop :D |
Amoki (9426) | ||
| 424657 | 2006-01-29 08:00:00 | Personally I woudn't touch a Toshiba . At the High School I work at most of the Teachers lease Laptops from the Ministry of Education . . . Unfortunately all of these laptops are Toshiba . Our Computer Technician spends most of his time fixing the bugs on the damn things!! Hmmm . . . . . . . . I'd review the training and competencies of your technician if I were you . I am associated with a large College and we curently have in excess of 100 laptops under the MoE lease scheme . Many of these are now ending their lease term and are due for replacement . Apart from the usual warm-ware problems with inexperienced users, the machines themselves have been very reliable indeed, despite being utterly thrashed by the more experienced users . Toshiba have an exceptional reputation for stability and reliability, and bugs have most certainly not been an issue at all . Cheers Billy 8-{) |
Billy T (70) | ||
| 424658 | 2006-01-29 10:29:00 | Bah, my IBM Thinkpad just keeps on going. Great build quality and 1st rate customer service, but you pay for it. | Sb0h (3744) | ||
| 424659 | 2006-01-29 10:43:00 | AS a photography enthusiast I cannot agree with you. Pictures look different on every computer screen simply because every computer screen has different settings and every printer has different colour setting (CMYK, RGB, photo lab = full range). Calibration is the key, and digital shutterbugs will always recommend calibration every month. Also, for different monitors there is something called "ICC Profile" which is attached with picture files for photo-editing on Photoshop which saves the setting on your monitor into your picture (much like EXIF although EXIF is embedded, but I'm not familiar with ICC profiling at all). IF you are printing off a photo lab/printer/kiosk, usually print off one print and compare it to your monitor until the colour tone matches to that of your computer, then edit your picture until the colour is that of what you want to be printed off. simply go there every time you want to print. If you have the guts, and if you intend to print more than 50 pictures show your memory media to whoever is in charge, ask the person in charge whether you can print off 1 shot for free so that you can calibrate your monitor to that of the printer. Anyone who understand what you're talking about (monitor calibration is not really such a well-known issue though, and any sales person who claims there is no such thing as monitor calibration should be shot.) will probably let you get away with it. Same rules go to your printer. (A programme on TV3 a few months ago had a very flawed presentation on pictures printed off various shot, but the fact is if you know what you are doing Kodak Kiosk can be great too). Calibrate the brightness and contrast of your monitor until the colour tone is similar, then edit your picture using that setting. As a general rule CRT monitors are always easier to calibrate than LCD monitors (go CRT go!) and also has more display vibrancy, but unless you are a digital/ professional photographer don't worry about it. So don't let screen setting put you off towards your dream laptop :D From my prints, a CRT is closer towards it. But for perfection you would need a monitor calibrator like a Monaco Optix or Gregtagmacbeth Eye One Design. I plan for the latter one as its a spectrophotometer which calibrates print out as well. The Eye One Desig is not a bad one becos its quite a price drop from the time when Eye One Photo was the main provider. You could get your local lab to print a test chart out and calibrate that or send to a store in Auckland or the USA which they do profiles for you for a fee but the issue is you never know what exact settings they will use everytime, thus I believe you will only get consistent workflow if you print yourself or go to a lab which does it this way such as www.pcl.co.nz . Between the Epson 2400 and its wider format printers (larger than A3) are great :D I would think thou CRT are closer to the prints than a LCD. Least its closer. Even better is get a monitor calibrator but that is not everyone's cup of tea. |
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