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424546 2006-01-27 03:27:00 Hello members
Lately I noticed that my machine is running, with very few applications running, at about 50-51 degrees. With work it soon climbs up to mid 50's and peaks end 50's with working on graphics.
I have checked the fans and all looks reasonably clean.
Could it be that the CPU fan is not attached very well(after 3 years in work)?
Should I change CPU and PSU fans after such a time in use. Both fans are quite loud and may could also do with some "oil"?

Can anyone help me with some suggestions?

Thanks

Here the specs of my machine
Motherboard:
CPU Type Intel Pentium 4, 2400 MHz (18 x 133)
Motherboard Name Albatron PX865P (Pro) / PX865PE (Pro) / PX865PEL-800 / PX865PE Lite (Pro)
Motherboard Chipset Intel Springdale i865PE
System Memory 1536 MB (DDR SDRAM)
BIOS Type Award (03/01/04)

Display:
Video Adapter NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 (Microsoft Corporation) (128 MB)
3D Accelerator nVIDIA GeForce FX 5200
Monitor Philips 109S (109S4) [19" CRT] (CX 490901)

Multimedia:
Audio Adapter Intel 82801EB ICH5 - AC'97 Audio Controller

Storage:
IDE Controller Intel(R) 82801EB Ultra ATA Storage Controllers
Floppy Drive Floppy disk drive
Disk Drive Macpower USB2.0A 3.5"HDD USB Device (111 GB, USB)
Disk Drive ST3200826A (186 GB, IDE)
Optical Drive ASUS DRW-1608P (DVD+R9:6x, DVD+RW:16x/8x, DVD-RW:16x/6x, DVD-ROM:16x, CD:40x/24x/40x DVD+RW/DVD-RW)
SMART Hard Disks Status OK
notechyet (4479)
424547 2006-01-27 03:34:00 check task manager for anything that may be hogging the cpu time cause that'll heat it up a little.......otherwise optn the case and look for dust particularly between the fan and heatsink that sit on the cpu.....if theres dust between the fan and heatsink the fan wotn be able to blow air onto the heatsink correctly and it'll heat up ....... drcspy (146)
424548 2006-01-27 03:42:00 Thanks drcspy!
Done that.
As I mentioned before in this forum the fans(not sure which one of the two) are also running quite noisy!
Could it be that the bearings are getting old?
Gion
notechyet (4479)
424549 2006-01-27 03:45:00 when did you last clean out the heatsinks and fans? tweak'e (69)
424550 2006-01-27 03:52:00 relevant forum post (www.experts-exchange.com)

It seems a tad high especially at idle. Don't trust hardware sensors in motherboards too much. Is there okay airflow throughout the case ?

Well you could try a drop of oil, if you can get at the bearings. See this (www.heatsink-guide.com)

If you are really worried then I'd try and find a quieter replacement heatsink and fan. They are pretty cheap these days.
gibler (49)
424551 2006-01-27 04:01:00 Hi gibler & tweak'e
last time cleaned just before; blowing out with a puff of my strong lungs.
I will read your link gibler, looks interesting!
Just now with the browser open and OE it runns at 52 degrees(Speedfan).
When I did start up the machine I checked in the bios settings and there it showed 50-51 degrees.
I will read all the links and go from there.
Anyway the noise starts to be a pain!!

Thanks to you and I will post what's happening.
Gion
notechyet (4479)
424552 2006-01-27 04:06:00 50 degrees is fine. My computer has a poor case design, and therefore develops a lot of heat, often hovers around 60 degrees and peaks at around 70. It's better to have a colder computer, but the CPU dyes won't start to melt till around 80 degrees. Haze (3028)
424553 2006-01-27 09:19:00 I agree with Haze. 60's a worry, 70's bad, and 80's tops.

Still considering the speed and type of CPU, it does seem a bit warm.

The Zalman CNP cooler should keep your CPU very cool, but it's a bit pricey at around $115.

If you keep your old stock fan, you can later use it in a new PC. It supports pretty much any popular CPU.

www.zalman.co.kr
kingdragonfly (309)
424554 2006-01-27 11:38:00 Hi gibler & tweak'e
last time cleaned just before; blowing out with a puff of my strong lungs.
I will read your link gibler, looks interesting!
Just now with the browser open and OE it runns at 52 degrees(Speedfan).
When I did start up the machine I checked in the bios settings and there it showed 50-51 degrees.
I will read all the links and go from there.
Anyway the noise starts to be a pain!!

Thanks to you and I will post what's happening.
Gion

In the BIOS the temps will be usually different to the O/S loaded plus more Apps and the CPU under load.

You live in NZ and we are now in summer and ambient room temps are climbing.

Would suggest you remove the heatsink fan and replace with a good model for your CPU. I have 5 apps running at the moment. The room temp is about 18% C and the CPU is at 47% Not that I trust the temp on my hardware monitor but it is all I have to go on. Earlier today the CPU temp got to 56% in the late afternoon with sun poking in this room. This morning the CPU was at 39%.

My main reason to say about the CPU fan was not only cooling but if the noise is a pain then replace. I put a Volcano 9 heatsink and fan on my CPU a while ago. Kept everything cool but very noisy. I took it off about three weeks later and it is quiet here now.
Sweep (90)
424555 2006-01-27 19:38:00 I think the temps are a bit high . Especially considering it's only a 2 . 4GHz CPU . I have a 3 . 0GHz overclocked to 3 . 3GHz and my idle temps sits around 40 - 41 degrees (on a very hot day) . You may benefit by removing the HSF and reseating them on the CPU . I assume that your FSB is 533MHz or you have overclocked the CPU . In any event check the HSF and make sure its sitting properly on the CPU . I would also consider getting a bigger fan for the case . . . if you have 80mm fans then swap them for 120mm . They move more air and are not as noisy as the 80mm ones .

Another option you can consider is a new HSF for the CPU . . . have a look at the Overclockers NZ ( . overclockers . co . nz/product/cooler/index . shtml" target="_blank">www . overclockers . co . nz) site they have some good products and advice in the forums too if you're not lazy to read .

OR

if you have a fairly quiet 80mm fan laying around somewhere this Titan ( . dse . co . nz/cgi-bin/dse . storefront/43da721e0c57e8b62740c0a87f990749/Product/View/XH6845" target="_blank">www . dse . co . nz) heat sink is very good in terms of heat dissipation (the fans is useless and noisy but the heatsink performs pretty well in my opinion)

I have one running with an 80mm Zalman fan . . . it works great and my temps don't sky rocket, I hardly go over 51 degrees at full load .

Just a few things for you to consider .

cheers

chiefnz
chiefnz (545)
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