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Thread ID: 66020 2006-02-08 05:25:00 Ugent 98 Installation Help Needed!!! roddy_boy (4115) Press F1
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428486 2006-02-12 01:17:00 Right, it sounds as though the drive has had it. The drivers would almost certainly still work with Win98 if the drive was ok.

Maybe you can lay your hands on a second hand IDE CD drive and use that instead.
It was working before I mucked everything up... Yep if I happen accross an old one somewhere, I'll put it in for them.


because that could cause a sudden failure They were not IDE drives, even though they had 40 pin IDE type connectors.
Does that mean that I broke it by trying that? :S
Cheers,
roddy
roddy_boy (4115)
428487 2006-02-12 01:25:00 I've never broken them by doing that. They just don't work. :D

There's a very subtle indication that they aren't IDE: the jumpers aren't MA/SL/CS; they are 0,1,2 3 (on the Panasonic 563B, anyway). You can connect up to four drives to one controller.

If you moved the drive select jumper from "0", it might not get found.
Graham L (2)
428488 2006-02-12 02:51:00 The jumpers were MA/SL/CS though.. It was set to slave. But if i put it in the mobo, it just wouldn't go, go a boot error. But it was different to a standard IDE plug, it was able to plug into the IDE socket both was.. but it looked like it was designed for the soundcard socket, it fitted in there only one way, and everything lined up all nicely, and I'm pretty sure that's where it was to start off with. roddy_boy (4115)
428489 2006-02-12 02:57:00 Oh. :D

Then it might be an IDE after all. An unkeyed connector is always a problem. If you get the cable the wrong way around in an IDE socket, you will stop everything, because it earths some bus lines. Have a very good look and make sure yiou get pin 1 connected to pin 1. (The stripe on the edge is supposed to be the pin 1 end of the connector. That will be the end nearest the power connector on the drive, but you have to look carefully on the motherboard. (It's often the other way round to the floppy connector ;) ).
Graham L (2)
428490 2006-02-12 03:24:00 There's something Fawlty here Basil. :D B.M. (505)
428491 2006-02-12 04:13:00 I suppose I should have said some of those x2 CD drives that connected to sound cards or to their own controller cards were not IDE. Some sound cards used to have separate sockets for both IDE and Panasonic type drives.

I think I can remember the odd I/O ISA card fail when plugging a CD200 drive into them.

Maybe it should be tried slaved to the HDD, or, plugged into its own IDE socket, and see what happens.
Terry Porritt (14)
428492 2006-02-12 07:47:00 I did try it in the mobo IDE socket, it either errored and wouldn't boot, or just behaved the same and wouldn't get recognised. (recognized? - i don't know.)
Anyways, that didn't work either, and the drivers had loaded the autoexec.bat and config.sys files correctly right from the word go, so should have seen it in my comp.
o_O
Who knows, managed to convince them that the computer is old enough to spend a few hundred on a second hand one anyway.
Cheers everyone,
roddy
roddy_boy (4115)
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