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| Thread ID: 66074 | 2006-02-09 23:07:00 | broadband data caps..... | lance4k (4644) | Press F1 |
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| 428966 | 2006-02-10 03:41:00 | Bcause Teleom have a monopoly herein NZ and we are near the bottom a far as broadband goes in the world. In fact weare probably less than 3rd world there. This current goverment does not want to do anything about it because it is raking in too much money in taxes from Telecom and its users. Remeber that while you may be with another ISP ultimatly they get all their feed from Telcom. Time for that to go an this goverment to live up to their promises (which is not very likely given their past performances such as no new taxes. Oh gee they are not taxes they are levies) |
Big John (551) | ||
| 428967 | 2006-02-10 04:59:00 | NZ is isolated and has a very small population, we use a cable (southern cross cable shared with Australia etc) that costs around a billion dollars. It is very unrealistic to expect NO data caps. North America/Asia and Europe have huge populations that make it far more profitable for there network overhead dollar. Telecoms (and ISPs) make money from how many people they can fit on there pipe, no data caps would probably make broadband completely unprofitable and run at a heavy loss in NZ. However! , Telecoms 10gig $59 plan is pathetic which is ripping us a new one. Ihug 40gig $69 seems to me to be a fair and acceptably price. We should expect better data caps, but don't be unrealistic by expecting no caps. Add to that, if you need much more that 40gig a month (at the moment) you are probably just downloading for the sake of it, I know a few guys that download on Ihug's 80gig plan and don't watch or play half of what they download a month. |
Battleneter (60) | ||
| 428968 | 2006-02-10 19:53:00 | Add to that, if you need much more that 40gig a month (at the moment) you are probably just downloading for the sake of it, I know a few guys that download on Ihug's 80gig plan and don't watch or play half of what they download a month. Agree with that. I know someone who is stuck in limbo. No ISP is billing them and they haven't had a bill for almost a year now! They have full adsl download and upload speeds and have been downloading over 90GB every month! Only doing it because they can and not even watching or playing anything that gets downloaded. He had to buy a bigger HDD and a DVD writer to save all the data. I'll really LMOA if they suddenly get a bill for all the data they have downloaded! |
CYaBro (73) | ||
| 428969 | 2006-02-10 20:13:00 | Perhaps if Little Miss 2.2 mill hadn't lost a fortune in OZ we would have some to spend on improved B/B. | Cicero (40) | ||
| 428970 | 2006-02-10 22:00:00 | Bandwidth data caps are a Good Thing (en.wikipedia.org) because they help limit the broadband leeches from excessively slowing down the connections that the rest of us use.I agree. Having no data caps is a terrible idea because a small minority will decrease the quality of service the majority experiences for absolutely no reason other than to prove they can download the most. If Telecom bumped upstream speeds on their top ADSL plan to 1Mbit and increased the data cap to something like 25GB per month I'm sure that they would have very few complaints. (In a perfect world they would also bump downsteam speeds up to 8Mbit and decrease the monthly fee by $10 per month, but that's not going to happen... :p ) | maccrazy (6741) | ||
| 428971 | 2006-02-10 23:18:00 | I know someone who is stuck in limbo. No ISP is billing them and they haven't had a bill for almost a year now! They have full adsl download and upload speeds and have been downloading over 90GB every month! If I was them I would be doing the same (maybe not 90 GB/month, but more likely to be like 30 GB/month). |
stu161204 (123) | ||
| 428972 | 2006-02-11 00:15:00 | If I was them I would be doing the same (maybe not 90 GB/month, but more likely to be like 30 GB/month). I do between 30-40 on Ihug a month and get everything I would realistically want (all demo stuff of course!!). Maybe in a year or two when full DVD 4gig (demo's cough) become more the standard a higher cap would be desirable, but right now people doing much over 50gig plus are just being wasteful in my honest opinion. Realistic caps are necessary, not the 10gig crap Xtra offer, where a family of two or three kids can blow 10 gig a month just on online gaming (in fact I know a few). People that have never seen this assume if you need more than 10 gig you must be DL illegal stuff which of course in not true, people often like to live in whats known as "Family units" :P, and often more than one person use the net, shock horror!! (Telecom take note). |
Battleneter (60) | ||
| 428973 | 2006-02-11 00:32:00 | I do between 30-40 on Ihug a month and get everything I would realistically want (all demo stuff of course!!) . Maybe in a year or two when full DVD 4gig (demo's cough) become more the standard a higher cap would be desirable, but right now people doing much over 50gig plus are just being wasteful in my honest opinion . Realistic caps are necessary, not the 10gig crap Xtra offer, where a family of two or three kids can blow 10 gig a month just on online gaming (in fact I know a few) . People that have never seen this assume if you need more than 10 gig you must be DL illegal stuff which of course in not true, people often like to live in whats known as "Family units" :P, and often more than one person use the net, shock horror!! (Telecom take note) . I can tell you it sucks for flats . I was talking to an ex-flatmate the other day . The 10 gig cap was blown in 3 days so it is 64 K for the rest of the month . . . . |
gibler (49) | ||
| 428974 | 2006-02-11 10:28:00 | the way p2p is getting clobbered overseas will make a difference to downloading. I know someone who regularly does 60 or 70gb & it's all p2p If the tv channels don't stop advertising the way they do & broadband gets faster then i can see isp's supplying tv & goodbye tv1 ect. The winter olympics won't be worth watching cos of the ads/promos whatever they want to call/justify it as |
Phil B (648) | ||
| 428975 | 2006-02-11 13:12:00 | This house has a 2000kbps/128kbps connection which is mainly used by 2 people. It is used everyday and is used for online gaming most days (BF2, PF, AoEIII, NFS:MW - not exactally small detail games) so alot of information is going accross the line, there is also the patches for those games, and any streaming trailers for movies and games we watch. We are on the 10gb xtra plan and have never gone over our limit. Although 2000kbps is still a poor speed compared to the rest of the world it's the upload speeds that need to be worked on first, 128kbps is pitiful, telecom says that we don't need anymore than that unless we are a buisness uploading largefiles, they recon that it is fine for gaming. However, because the upload isonly 128kbps then your ping is just below 1/2 of what it was with 56k, this is fine for games like age of empires III and Pacific Fighters, but if you are in a bandwidth intensive game like BF2 then you are stuck playing on the Aust and NZ servers. We need a higher upload before anything else is done. Btw someone mentioned us compared to the world, we are nolonger the worst developed country in the OECD for broadband. in the last 1/2 of 2005 telecom was able to get NZ to climb from 30th place to 24th place, just behind australia in 23rd (although there is a big margin between the countries) |
Faded_Mantis (79) | ||
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