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Thread ID: 66140	2006-02-12 20:16:00	guys, great news from our friend telecom..	jackyht2002 (6606)	Press F1

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429570	2006-02-14 22:05:00	Read who it was from: Nandor (the druggie who I wonder why the police havent arrested for drug possession yet) Tanzcos - stopped readingStill a valid point Nandor had. As for "arrest for possession" me thinks your ignorance is showing. Nandor was long ago quoted to say he smokes sometimes, but not when working because it would slow down his head while at work. So where's the possession? Perhaps it's good to consider what people say before writing someone off as a "druggy" simply because someone is honest enough to admit having once smoked. And oops... all my points are now invalid because even though i nolonger smoke, i did, and i've served time for possession and cultivation. Feel free to write me off with that great logic of yours..... As for the Telecom arguement, granted, there's a long way to go before things are up to international standard, but what we are seeing here is an improvement. This is a good thing, right? The networks basic DSL spec has sped up. I'm sure that means other ISPs will be able to give betterdeals than they have been. All good news me thinks. Much of it it is exactly what people have been moaning for :confused:	personthingy (1670)
429571	2006-02-14 22:40:00	didnt think so . Is "whatever I damn feel like" a sign on your shop window? If so lead the way cos I am sure that you would be miffed if I went to your shop and took "whatever I damn feel like" Heh? That makes sense to you? You declare people as theives if they are after a service that fits their needs, be it that their requirments are different from yours . Narrow vision . And I fail to see how asking if you can steal my goods is related to anything but pure stupidity . Go ahead, You have my full permission to try anything you like . **Lights up a Doobie, Fires up some Alice in Chains . . . .	Metla (12)
429572	2006-02-15 00:56:00	Here is an example of how one could use 10GB: Download a game demo: 500MB Listen to online radio for an hour or so per day: 2GB Download two HD movie trailers: 200MB General usage per day: 150MB x 30 = 4.5GB Download system updates: 200MB Download application updates: 200MB Buy some music online: 300MB Download a funny video someone sent you: 300MB Random other things: 1GB That gets you to 9.2GB of usage quite easily. Now obviously not everyone is going to use that much, but some will use much more. What say they want to download a 1080i movie trailer instead of a 720p one? Or perhaps they use 250MB of data each day for general usage. Throw in a bit of VOIP (which Telecom would understandably be worried about) and it very quickly adds up. I'm not a fan of unlimited or unmetered solutions but a 25GB cap would be ample for most people. How diverse! I could easily use up twice my 5 gig telstra-cable cap downloading *nix distros to try on my next machine. I also managed to blow my friends datacap (telecom/xtra 1Gb) by doing a system upgrade while at her house. D'oh. I updated and pulled over 500Mb's in just over an hours download.	personthingy (1670)
429573	2006-02-15 01:42:00	Heh? That makes sense to you? You declare people as theives if they are after a service that fits their needs, be it that their requirments are different from yours . Narrow vision . heh? The thieving part is to do with the need to have higher caps . Not that service is either too expensive or too slow . So far no one has openly said that they need the higher caps for legitimate reasons . If then can justify it, they I would support them, if they cant then what are they crying about?	sam m (517)
429574	2006-02-15 01:45:00	I especially like the one on using 2Gig for online radio.. nicely exaggerated :) Sounds like you should PR for Xtra :)My calculation was: 1 hour per day x 31 days x 128/8 = 1.78GB, rounded to 2GB. For people who have their stereo rigged up to their computer, more than one hour per day is probably quite common. :) How diverse! I could easily use up twice my 5 gig telstra-cable cap downloading *nix distros to try on my next machine.I guess that's why there is so much debate in this thread. Some people don't use 5GB, some are happy with 10GB while others need 20GB or more, but few can understand the other's requirements. :p Edit: heh? The thieving part is to do with the need to have higher caps. Not that service is either too expensive or too slow. So far no one has openly said that they need the higher caps for legitimate reasons. If then can justify it, they I would support them, if they cant then what are they crying about?All of the things I put in the example that has been quoted a few posts above are legit. Our connection usage for the last few days: 534.29MB, 751.18MB, 232.83MB. Illegal content downloaded: None. :)	maccrazy (6741)
429575	2006-02-15 01:51:00	Still a valid point Nandor had . Good onya Personthingy :) The Greens usually make valid points . The almost pathological response they receive from a small minority continues to amaze me . Some people need something to hate it seems . I hope the people posting in this thread also put pen to paper and send their views to MP Cunnliffe and the PM . (no stamp required) Pete	Organicpete (133)
429576	2006-02-15 02:03:00	So far no one has openly said that they need the higher caps for legitimate reasons . Ey what? What is "legitimate reasons"? I thought downloading *nix distros, updating ones computer, picking up emails, surfing the web, and no end of other uses were "legitimate" reasons for wanting broadband that flew . . And for reference, there are such things as legitimate music downloads, just cause some people can't be bothered looking doesn't mean they don't exist . But each to there own and who are we to judge? I want fast internet for my reasons, and my neighbour may want it for theirs . live and let live . . If we all wanted the same stuff, we may as well just share a CD between us . But anyway, most of us want faster bigger better broadband with red racing stripes, flames on the side, and a thumping great V8 . Our reasons are our own, and i believe there is no debating the "i want" side of the argument . If one wants, one does, simple really :stare: The only debate is if what one wants is possible, and if telecom are holding back, and what, if anything can or should be done about it .	personthingy (1670)
429577	2006-02-15 02:22:00	Hello I haven't spend much time reading through this post. Just want to mention that people like me (rural) and there is quite a number in NZ are totaly disapointed as the main interest for those Telecomunication giants are the centers as there is obviously more money to be made there with ugrading the speed then serving the rest of the country. Me (and a number of others)being two k's from the telecom exchange is to much for them to do any upgrade so we have to be happy with a "fence wire" alike connection. I can only hope that the get pusht to change theyr attitude and commitment! GionThe entire telecom network is being rebuilt, local exchanges are being removed. Eventually the will be just 17 ( ? ) exchanges feeding the entire telecom NZ network, with fibre links to small metal boxes that form local distribution points for the last K or so. This is happening all over the country, and will mean anyone close enough to a distribution point to have a phone line, will be close enough for DSL. This wont happen overnight, i think its a 3 year plan that was started about 6 months ago. It will bring telecoms entire network up to the standard that Telstras network is, something that many of us here in CHCH have been enjoying for some years now. So there you go Gion, your upgrade is on the todo list.	personthingy (1670)
429578	2006-02-15 02:40:00	Hi I have been looking at all the replies on this subject, and while I agree with some, I don't agree on all. There have been some, (albeit very small) advances in the past year or two in so called "broadband", but I feel as long as the present government don't do something more positive, we are going to stay at the bottom of the heap, as we nearly are now. All the so called promises by the government so far to "do something" to make Telecom toe the line have amounted to nothing. Its so easy to say one thing but mean another. If you have a politician that has a spine and does something to fix a problem, you normally find he is tossed out, or relegated to the opposition very quickly. You normally find that any one worth their salt, is swallowed up by the old boys school, and then become impotent as to getting anything done. As to the problem at hand, I am with Orcon 2mb 1 gig autosense, it doesn't take very long to blow that. In fact I am usually well over by the time they let me know. And that's just surfing, emails, and updates. The new plans that Xtra are rolling out begins April 1st, anyone see the relevance? Seriously though, I feel that it is just a stalling tactic, as they know that if the pursestrings, sorry, the copper lines are unbundled, then their monopoly is gone, and I don't think the shareholders in California would like to lose so much money. The government would also lose their cash cow.	intel hunter (6666)
429579	2006-02-15 02:51:00	heh? The thieving part is to do with the need to have higher caps. Not that service is either too expensive or too slow. So far no one has openly said that they need the higher caps for legitimate reasons. If then can justify it, they I would support them, if they cant then what are they crying about? Why do you think anyone has to justify there requirements to the likes of you? What a bizarre person you must be, The issue is getting a product that is value for money, and extremly limited caps in no way represents value for money, The fact you presume everyone to be theiving is of zero cosequence to the issue. Zero, as in nothing, not relivant, nada, zip, etc etc.The only thing you are accomplishing is a big slur against others due to your narrow vision.	Metla (12)
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