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Thread ID: 66140	2006-02-12 20:16:00	guys, great news from our friend telecom..	jackyht2002 (6606)	Press F1

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429540	2006-02-13 15:40:00	Lol.SAme..Im in Hk returning to NZ on saturday.Back with dialup for a few days before connecting to ihug 2mbps Im surfing at 10 megs up and 10 megs down with no data cap. I watched quite a few cartoons online. I just updated Norton 10mbs worth of update in a few seconds instead of like waiting unpatiently with dialup.	Ninjabear (2948)
429541	2006-02-13 16:58:00	Here is an example of how one could use 10GB: Download a game demo: 500MB Listen to online radio for an hour or so per day: 2GB Download two HD movie trailers: 200MB General usage per day: 150MB x 30 = 4.5GB Download system updates: 200MB Download application updates: 200MB Buy some music online: 300MB Download a funny video someone sent you: 300MB Random other things: 1GB That gets you to 9.2GB of usage quite easily. Now obviously not everyone is going to use that much, but some will use much more. What say they want to download a 1080i movie trailer instead of a 720p one? Or perhaps they use 250MB of data each day for general usage. Throw in a bit of VOIP (which Telecom would understandably be worried about) and it very quickly adds up. I'm not a fan of unlimited or unmetered solutions but a 25GB cap would be ample for most people. :) yeah riiiggghht - I believe you ;) At least my friends that are on 10GB plan are honest. They tell me they download movies, music etc and they ***** and moan like most here. I have 2 comps connected 24/7. Two kids using them constanty online. Windows box set to update automatically and linux box I update regularly downloading different applications sometimes daily. Yet to hit 3GB and cant see any reason for a faster upload (no movies to share I suppose) Cant see how anyone can use more than 10GB let alone 5GB. just started using skype so that might make a difference but time will tell	sam m (517)
429542	2006-02-13 19:57:00	Opps, you're right sam_m. I meant 10 songs times 3MB each so 30MB not 300MB - now you have another 270MB to do with what you please. ;) Here are another couple of things that chew through bandwidth: 1) If you have a website (which was mentioned earlier in the thread) and want to make a full site backup once a month, depending on the size of the site, around 500MB of transfer would be needed. Or if you need to upload a large file, even the with the improved upsteam speeds, it is still going to take a while. Now, some people would argue that it affects a small number of people. But say there are 1000 websites in New Zealand earning $5000 per year from ecommerce or advertising, thats a $5 million contribution to the economy. Next you could say, if you are earning $5000 per year, surely you can afford to speed $150 per month on Jetstream. The thing is that it still makes a huge dent in profits and it is harder to be competitive with other international sites. That is just a small example, I believe there are other industries that have far bigger problems with broadband speeds and datacaps. 2) Have you ever used Google Earth? It's a great program for viewing satellite image from around the globe. If you haven't tried it, it's definitely an essential download, though once again, it can use large amounts of bandwidth. 3) Online gaming. I'm not really into it myself (I probably play computer games for about 2 hours total per month), but that wasn't in my earlier list. Bandwidth is needed. These are just facts, many families may fit within a 5GB cap, but is it unreasonable to expect reasonably priced plans for those that use more? I don't think anyone can expect the same sort of prices as countries with densely populated cities in Asia etc but at the moment the limitations on broadband are too restrictive. :) :2cents: Im surfing at 10 megs up and 10 megs down with no data cap. I could get used to that. :p What sort of connection is it though? Cable?	maccrazy (6741)
429543	2006-02-13 20:19:00	:groan: Mate - look at the Pro Plan column - "3.5M/512K" Yep - I can read. All I am saying is I am interpreting Telecoms latest 'offer' different than you are. And seeing as how they haven't actually told us what we are getting yet then either one of us could be right. From their own website From early April you will automatically be upgraded to a faster plan - with either a drop or no change to your monthly plan charge. By keeping us on the Adventure plan they have done this (Have they not? - our download speed has increased to 3.5Mbps for no change in monthly plan) We will be in touch shortly to let you know of any changes that affect you. They haven't told us yet what exactly we will be getting. While I would like to think that your interpretation is correct because I would very much like to be upgraded to the Pro plan for no extra money, I can't see Telecom doing that. To get the 512 upload I still think we would have to pay the extra $20 month. Why don't we agree to disagree and see what eventuates come April. :o	Tukapa (62)
429544	2006-02-13 20:23:00	That is a pathetic Move By telecom. They think we are all stupid!! Basic plan which is $29/month has cap of 200MB!!!!!. What a Joke Telecom. I hope the commerce commission rips you apart. I could kill Theresa if see her walking down the street someday.	vodafone (9466)
429545	2006-02-13 20:29:00	All I am saying is I am interpreting Telecoms latest 'offer' different than you are. And seeing as how they haven't actually told us what we are getting yet then either one of us could be right. From their own website From early April you will automatically be upgraded to a faster plan - with either a drop or no change to your monthly plan charge.You're arguing against yourself there - why do you have a problem with them either reducing your costs, or increasing your speed? :confused: [edit] seeing as how they haven't actually told us what we are getting yetYeah I agree with you there - they weren't 100% conclusive in what their statement said. Although mainstream TV news last night seemed convinced that my viewpoint was correct. (although of course that's News for you - they always "know" better") ;)	Greg (193)
429546	2006-02-13 20:32:00	Look at this, The mind boggles, more procrastination . What has this government been doing over the past six years? "The Government agrees New Zealand is not up to speed on the broadband issue and is promising action, but does not want to rush through changes . Telecom has announced a new broadband deal which will be launched in April . The new services will provide a download speed of 3 . 5 megabits per second . At the moment, the top speed is two megabits . A new upload speed of 512 kilobits will be available . Currently, the company offers 128 kilobits . Communications Minister David Cunliffe says the Government does not want to intervene too quickly, because of the risk mistakes could made, but he says Telecom's new broadband speed of 3 . 5 megabits is not good enough and comes at the last minute when the Government is starting to talk tough . But Mr Cunliffe says the knock-on impact of policy changes needs to be considered as the Government does not want to stop Telecom investing in technology . "	bonzo29 (2348)
429547	2006-02-13 20:47:00	Bonzo - those calls by the Government are pretty fair I reckon. If it came to introducing easier access to say, a new "wonder" drug, and things screwed up, well they'd have a lot to answer for. These things take time, and as I've been proclaiming since early yesterday, it's a significant, albeit not gigantic, step forward for us consumers.	Greg (193)
429548	2006-02-13 20:57:00	Greg, A good point, it's important not to be too hasty but hasn't this "wonder drug" been on the world market for some time now with proven results.	bonzo29 (2348)
429549	2006-02-13 22:12:00	Some more on this: Telecom's broadband cut 'overdue' (www.nzherald.co.nz) UPDATE: No faster UBS leaves providers in lurch (computerworld.co.nz) This time from the Govt: Greens criticise Telecom's broadband move (home.nzcity.co.nz) Govt says Telecom's broadband offer not enough (home.nzcity.co.nz) PM may signal moves on broadband (tvnz.co.nz)	stu161204 (123)
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