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Thread ID: 66140 2006-02-12 20:16:00 guys, great news from our friend telecom.. jackyht2002 (6606) Press F1
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429520 2006-02-13 02:23:00 Oops...I meant to say our download speed to 3.5Mbps (wpuldn't that be a nice upload speed!).

They only mention downloads in that little excerpt you have qouted Greg.
Tukapa (62)
429521 2006-02-13 04:21:00 Big wow. 3.5MBit is nice to have, but it doesn't address the main flaws in the New Zealand broadband market. One, slow upload speeds, two, small data caps and three, high prices. The cheapest plan is a joke, my family goes through twice that much bandwidth in a day.

The current network can support up to 8Mbit upstream and 1MBit downstream and they don't even offer plans at those speeds. Telecom needs some competition or we will be stuck in the dark ages forever - both price wise and speed wise...
maccrazy (6741)
429522 2006-02-13 04:43:00 IMO you can have tiny and huge priced plans if you so like, those will be the outliners.

But you do imo need a affordable family internet account like a 5GB 2Mbit or 1Mbit plan that pple can check email and surf and do some downloads like a game demo or the windows patch. If this isn't addressed the bulk users are never able to get away from dialup. The avg household prob wouldn't want to pay more than an avg $30 a month for it. I feel that households having a adequate internet connection shouldn't need to have a price tag of Sky TV on it, if one so wishes to have a price tag of Sky TV that should be the BB deluxe package that one wants to obtain. If any kinds of BB connection comes witha deluxe tag then pple will just get something cheaper like dialup, that maybe in NZ dialup is seen as adequate and BB are seen as luxury items I do not know.

200MB for $30 Telecom is silly IMO becos Windows XP Sp2 can blow it up even during the download. Telecom BB plans are not even able to address the current situation of safe internet usage.
Nomad (952)
429523 2006-02-13 04:47:00 But you do imo need a affordable family internet account like a 5GB 2Mbit or 1Mbit plan that pple can check email and surf and do some downloads like a game demo or the windows patch. If this isn't addressed the bulk users are never able to get away from dialup. The avg household prob wouldn't want to pay more than an avg $30 a month for it.I'd say the average household with two teenagers needs a 10GB - 15GB cap, but other than that I agree with you. :) maccrazy (6741)
429524 2006-02-13 04:52:00 Yes, cant understand the $30 200MB plan, whats that for? If anything, that should be $30 1GB, 256/128 plan for basic so NZ can upgrade away from dial-up, i would want to see who is gonna take up that plan...lol SolMiester (139)
429525 2006-02-13 05:10:00 From TVNZ: tvnz.co.nz

Telecom broadband offer criticised


Feb 13, 2006

The founder of the internet provider Slingshot has called Telecom's latest broadband speed offer a joke.

Telecom's internet service provider (ISP), Xtra, is to launch new download speeds and pricing on broadband services from April.

New deals will offer the same broadband prices for both business and residential customers, which will mean a big price drop for business customers, Telecom says.

The move follows a Commerce Commission ruling in December on the unbundled Bitstream Service (UBS) and a subsequent commercial agreement between Telecom and TelstraClear.

But Slingshot chief executive officer Annette Presley wants the government and the Commerce Commission to create a level playing field.

She wants to see the process changed so that smaller internet providers do not have to fight larger providers through the legal system.

Telecom's new plans also include download speeds of up to 3.5 megabits per second (mbps) and three new services that offer an increased upload speed of 512 kilobits per second (kbps).

Existing residential plans will have their download speeds increased to maximum possible speeds of either two or 3.5 mbps.

Xtra will be progressively upgrading all current customers to the faster specifications for no change of price, and some plans will move to a lower price, Telecom says.

A new entry level plan will also be introduced, priced from $29.95, providing what the company calls "a dollar a day broadband" for people who want a basic broadband service.

"We want to attract new-to-broadband and new-to-internet customers - and this new Xtra Basic plan will help do that," says Matt Crockett general manager of Telecom's Wired Division.

Telecom will make the speeds available to other ISPs on a wholesale basis.

The new services will be available to customers from early April with existing customers receiving the upgraded speeds progressively from that month on, Telecom says.

Still too slow

Meanwhile, New Zealand's leading IT lobbyist says there's a risk internet access speeds will grow at an unacceptably slow rate if Telecom gets its way in a dispute with Call Plus, Ihug and Orcon.

Telecom Users Association chief executive Ernie Newman says the three ISPs want the Commerce Commission to force Telecom to offer its wires for internet transmission at unconstrained speeds.

But he says Telecom is trying to thwart Commerce Commission intervention by offering access at 3.5 megabytes per second.

Ihug and Call Plus could not be reached for comment but Orcon says it is unlikely to battle Telecom through the Commerce Commission.


Source: TVNZ Interactive/RNZ
stu161204 (123)
429526 2006-02-13 05:39:00 A new entry level plan will also be introduced, priced from $29.95, providing what the company calls "a dollar a day broadband" for people who want a basic broadband service.

"We want to attract new-to-broadband and new-to-internet customers - and this new Xtra Basic plan will help do that," says Matt Crockett general manager of Telecom's Wired Division. :lol: :lol: :lol: I think he meant to say: "We want to attract new customers who don't understand how the internet works and then when they blow their tiny 200MB cap (20MB of which will be lost maintaining the connection), charge them 2c per MB until the end of their billing cycle."
maccrazy (6741)
429527 2006-02-13 06:25:00 Well, personally I am looking forward to going from my current Explorer plan, which is

256/128 with a 3Gb cap
to
3.5Mbps/128 with a new 5Gb cap --- with no increase in cost

...but then that will meet all my needs for now and speed up my experience exponentially !

However, thinking in terms of the country's overall needs, we do need unbundling very soon !!!!
Misty :stare:
Misty (368)
429528 2006-02-13 06:56:00 They only mention downloads in that little excerpt you have qouted Greg. :groan: Mate - look at the Pro Plan column - "3.5M/512K" Greg (193)
429529 2006-02-13 07:06:00 :groan: Mate - look at the Pro Plan column - "3.5M/512K"

I'm sticking with IHUG - 40GB + 40GB Heavy user plan - all you can eat - I've been burnt with uncapped plans before and I'm sure IHUG will update their plans with the new speeds this year also.

I find IHUG help, online homepages etc all very good to deal with - though my peer to peer downlaods can be slow...

Still under Telecom i got 3 - 4 days before i ate my 10GB cap and got stuck on dial up for 27 days - would rather pay more and have pretty fast braodband all Month

Go IHUG!!!!
taxboy4 (579)
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