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Thread ID: 66179	2006-02-14 02:11:00	Spam & more spam	Poppa John (284)	Press F1

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430185	2006-02-14 07:41:00	hm.......aer you SURE it's set to 'delete' NOT just 'mark as spam' ?	drcspy (146)
430186	2006-02-14 07:45:00	hm.......aer you SURE it's set to 'delete' NOT just 'mark as spam' ? Positive....Option 3 PJ	Poppa John (284)
430187	2006-02-14 08:08:00	Billy T................Mailwasher downloaded, waiting to see what happens. Metla.... Last resort. When I look at the ISP part of the spam address I have to wonder if it is real or made up. If you make a 'Rule" with "Those " words in, then a genuine E-mail with one of those words will get stopped (Correct ?). If the ISP addy is false then 'bouncing' it back is not going to work. Yes, I know this is frowned on by some. Another problem is that if an incoming E-mail is not in your address book already, it will be treated as spam. How, then, can a new contact get thro? Damned annoying. PJ	Poppa John (284)
430188	2006-02-14 09:04:00	drcspy................Has been set like that for a long time. they they still get thro. PJ I use Orcon as my ISP and Outlook rather than outlook express. Tried Outlook junk mailfilter and did not work the way I expected. A free download and free program called SpamBayes seems to have solved the problem. I still get spam but the program learns as it goes and filters into another folder.	Sweep (90)
430189	2006-02-14 09:13:00	Sweep....... I use Spamfighter which does the same. Thing is, how to stop it altogether. Yeah, impossible I know. Fantasy time.........The Lone Ranger & his silver bullets come to mind. How to fire one down the line & have it blast out of the Drongo's monitor, straight between the eyes. Wouldn't that be classed as 'Justifiable Homicide' or 'Self defence'?? PJ	Poppa John (284)
430190	2006-02-14 09:58:00	PJ, Metlas advice is the best (and only long term) way to fix your problem. It may seem a big step, but you could always create a free gmail address (which will still be able to be accessed from Outlook Express OK) and advise all of the new address. Keep the Xtra one, and as soon as all important contacts have started using the new one, just "abandon" it. Periodically you could log into the Xtra Webmail page and clear it from there, save polluting OE, and you could check for any real emails. And if you do change addresses, be careful where you use the new one. Never place it on any forum etc, or register and free trial software etc with it. That action (free software registration) has seen a free Orcon address become unuseable in a year, while my main Xtra one receives only about 1 or 2 spam per month.	godfather (25)
430191	2006-02-14 21:34:00	Godfather & Metla...........I take it you are both talking about xxxxxxx@xtra co.nz , our main name? I do have a Gmail which is fine & an Orcon free which is being difficult at the moment. PJ	Poppa John (284)
430192	2006-02-15 08:11:00	Would using Outlook instead of Outlook Express be any advantage? PJ	Poppa John (284)
430193	2006-02-15 08:29:00	Some businesses use a program, that questions the email sender confirming that you did indeed send an email, before allowing it to go through . (I hope thats clear) . But I dont know what that program is . Would be great for spam, and just slighlty annoying for the originator of a genuine emal . Any idea what that program is?	John W (523)
430194	2006-02-15 10:35:00	Would using Outlook instead of Outlook Express be any advantage? PJ No. The spam is like a giant cowpat outside your door that gets renewed several times a day. However you choose to enter the door, it gets on your shoes, changing email program is simply changing shoes. You need to change the address you live at (which is changing your email address), to one with no giant cowpat on the doorstep. But then it comes back to how the cowpat got there, as your email address (the @ xtra one I assume is the problem) is not an "easily guessed" one so its been left somewhere it should not have been at some stage and has been harvested. Once harvested it does not usually improve, though the cowpat thickness may vary at times. I suspect that having ones email address in long lists of others on "mailing lists" can be a problem, as if any of the recipients in the list is infected with malware the lists can be harvested. If anyone ever sends me something where my email is in a large list (and therefore not using BCC : ) they get a visit from "the boys", with a black and decker drill for a little job on their kneecaps. They never do it again.	godfather (25)
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