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| Thread ID: 66487 | 2006-02-25 00:46:00 | HP printer (etc) manuals | Graham L (2) | Press F1 |
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| 433577 | 2006-02-25 00:46:00 | Looking for manuals for the HP 7580 plotter I acquired yesterday, I found a great site . The HP Computer Museum (www . hpmuseum . net/) is a collection of HP computing products produced after about 1966 . It has operator and even service manuals (www . hpmuseum . net/collection_document . php) for many old printers, plotters, and old computers and peripherals . The classic calculators are there too . Examples: HP500 inkjet, Laserjet II, Laserjet 4, 7545 plotter, the 7580 plotter . . . It takes a bit of reading down a long list . the minicomputers might not interest most people here, but some of them (2000, 3000) do come first . :D ) |
Graham L (2) | ||
| 433578 | 2006-02-25 01:20:00 | It has operator and even service manuals (www.hpmuseum.net/collection_document.php) for many old printers, plotters, Ah, back when you were supposed to fix them and not throw them away and buy a new one! :D |
pctek (84) | ||
| 433579 | 2006-02-25 03:45:00 | Now that is one handy site Thanks Graham |
bartsdadhomer (80) | ||
| 433580 | 2006-02-25 11:21:00 | Looking for manuals for the HP 7580 plotter I acquired yesterday, I found a great site . The HP Computer Museum (www . hpmuseum . net/) is a collection of HP computing products produced after about 1966 . It has operator and even service manuals (www . hpmuseum . net/collection_document . php) for many old printers, plotters, and old computers and peripherals . The classic calculators are there too . Examples: HP500 inkjet, Laserjet II, Laserjet 4, 7545 plotter, the 7580 plotter . . . It takes a bit of reading down a long list . the minicomputers might not interest most people here, but some of them (2000, 3000) do come first . :D )So what's the actual question or problem you have? |
Greg (193) | ||
| 433581 | 2006-02-25 12:27:00 | Thanks Graham, strangely, nothing on the DeskJet 540, I wonder why, this is a very common printer still being used today, in NZ at least, by me for one. | zqwerty (97) | ||
| 433582 | 2006-02-25 13:17:00 | So what's the actual question or problem you have?Graham is not asking about a problem, he is letting PF1'ers know about a handy resource he has found. That is one huge collection of manuals! Good to see historical stuff like that being preserved. |
Jen (38) | ||
| 433583 | 2006-02-25 20:45:00 | Interesting link Graham . I too have a collection of user manuals for the HP Laser printers but I haven't bothered to acquire any that are older than the LaserJet 4 . Within the musuem, the HP laser printers stop at the 4V (wasn't that one a flop?, it looked like the older printers instead of the more 'modern' laserjet 4) . Interestingly enough the HP4 was the forerunner to a number of series of personal laser printers from HP that all looked similar and had the same basic design, that has only recently changed . The LaserJet 4 and 5 series (e . g . 4, 4M, 4+, 4M+, 5, 5M, 5N) were the last of the HP printers to use the solid core fusing roller (i . e . a steel roller within the fuser that heats a rubber roller that 'fuses' the toner onto the paper) . Nowadays the printers have a teflon sleeve that revolves around a heating element and there are issues with the grease employed, early failures (although some last a lot longer than the recommended maintenance cycles) and they are not as robust as the solid core fusers . So the LaserJet 5 was the pinnacle of the sturdy, built to last, heavy duty personal laser printers, and it had a plethora of upgrade options . Like I said the LaserJet 4 was the forerunner to a whole series of similarily designed and looking printers, especially the 4000 series (i . e . the 4000, 4050, 4100 & 4200) . These are still very good printers today and are excellent network printers for large organisations . The 4300 is a completely new model (not just a facelift) that should possibly have been a new range . Time will tell if the new models are also built to last . A very similar range that didn't have the LCD panel was the 2000 series (i . e . the 2100, 2200 & 2300 series and their forebears, the 4L, 5P & 6P) . I have not idea why but these models were especially popular with the legal profession . These printers also employed the same basic design as the original LaserJet 4 and are still going strong . The 5P was the first HP model that had an in-built wireless irDa port (kind of cool but how often is this actually used?) . It is not uncommon to see a LaserJet 4000 that has printed well in excess of 1 million pages or a LaserJet 4, 5 or 2100 that has printed 700,000+ pages . That is impressive! You simply don't get that sort of performance from a Kyocera, Tektronix or Brother laser printer . The 1000 range is the SNAFU range - these printers are ok but don't have the upgrade options and don't have the expected life of the other series I mentioned . They didn't follow the same design principles as the earlier LaserJet 4 and they tend to have issues . The biggest SNAFU was the 1100 . Paper is not designed to stand on its end and early failures of the separation pads (a design flaw where the pad would deteriorate when exposed to UV light and it wouldn't function correctly) resulted in a class action lawsuit against HP . HP lost and had to supply free replacement pads to every user worldwide . Later models reverted to the paper lying flat (e . g . the 1200 and 1300 models), instead of standing on its end (i . e . like the 5L, 6L and 1100 models - even today the 5L, 6L and 1100 have separation pad issues) . So in my opinion, the LaserJet 4 deserves a much larger write-up and recognition over and above the the standard paragraph it received in the museum . Whilst the other models broke new ground, none of the other models had any lasting impact . Furthermore, properly maintained, the LaserJet 4 will still provide years of faithful service, whereas a significant number printer technicians won't bother repairing the other models represented in the musuem . Just my thoughts Andrew |
andrew93 (249) | ||
| 433584 | 2006-02-26 02:14:00 | I couldn't resist the big 7580B plotter at an auction for $10. I was interested to see that the first model cost US$15950 when it came out in 1981. They were made to last, and plotters are usually treated carefully. I've got a 7475, too ... that was a bit cheaper new: only $1800 or so. ;) | Graham L (2) | ||
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