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Thread ID: 66526 2006-02-26 05:23:00 Very ODD Problem... csinclair83 (200) Press F1
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433953 2006-02-27 04:28:00 We use a Uniden phone, II'll get the gf to sort it out when she gets home, the neighbour is quite hard 2 understand, so she can sort it out lol...

and having that message about emergency number, thats gotta be odd, coz every number you ring isnt the emergency number (unless u really ring 111), wouldnt wanna get that message all the time!!
csinclair83 (200)
433954 2006-02-27 04:47:00 We use a Uniden phone, I'll get the gf to sort it out when she gets home, the neighbour is quite hard 2 understand, so she can sort it out lol...!

You don't even need to talk to the neighbour, she can just go up close to their flat so that the phone signal is stronger there than at your phone, check that she has a dial tone, then dial your own number. If she gets through, she goes back home and you look for a way to change channels on your phone.

You only need to talk to the neighbour if you can't change channels on your phone, then you have to see if it can be done on theirs. They have a good incentive to cooperate, you could be making toll calls on their line.

If you have an ordinary corded phone as well, then turn off your cordless base station and that will make the test easier to do as there will be no chance that the dial tone comes from your flat.

Cheers

Billy 8-{)
Billy T (70)
433955 2006-02-27 06:04:00 In the older series low-end phones such as uniden, there was a rudimentary "handshake" with a unique code to access the phones own base station and the line. But none will prevent receiving a call that is already in progress on the same channel.

Also some have "channel hopping" built in, where they will change to another channel if the current one has a signal on it, but that does not always work.

However if both phones are on the same RF channel, then immediately on picking the phone up you may well hear another person whose phone is on the same channel. Hopefully you would be unable to access the landline for that channel from scratch though, as unless the phone is very old it should be coded to prevent getting dial tone from the other base set.

With such unscrambled cordless phones, you also need to remember that no call is ever "private", as they can (and are) easily be picked up also by anyone with a scanner, even a kilometer or so away. And there are a hell of a lot of scanners out there.

The newer DECT type digital phones are a lot more secure in that area.
godfather (25)
433956 2006-02-27 20:38:00 csinclair83, you may have accidently discovered a way to save money on your international / 0900 calls. just joking ;) kingdragonfly (309)
433957 2006-03-02 08:43:00 The comments about cordless phones have probably covered the source of the problem, but if the neighbour was not using a cordless phone, but rather a corded phone, this crosstalk can happen if there is a fault in the exchange. Calls from a cluster of homes typically terminate on a circuit board that carries multiple circuits, not just one as it was about 15 years ago. A faulty circuit board could cause all sorts of problems.
Also, recently, Telecom has started using "mini" exchanges (RLUs I think they are called) that multiplex signal bandwidth from several lines or premises and then feed them back to the main exchange. I am guessing that a fault within a mini-exchange could cause two local lines to link up (despite the general reliability of electronic circuits, many electronics rely on soft-programmed operations, so we can't expect perfection of operation till all the bugs get ironed out)
Are you both using Telecom as your providers? Some phone companies are routing calls through Voip circuits at some point during the calls progress from the local premises to the remote premises, and the necessary multiplexing of calls is at present more susceptible to faults. Some of the circuits I see are simply incapable of handling fax calls because a multiplexed call (as all voip calls basically are...) just is not as reliable as a dedicated line. Sadly the financial benefits of VOIP will eventually force Telecom to do away with dedicated copper wire links and go to more RLUs and multiplexed "broadband" lines. Seems like we have come full circle to the party line concept again.
With regard to the phone that gets the "dial 111 for emergency" message...you may have a faulty keypad. If the phone dials 999 (the British emergency number) you will get that message. Have you spilt coffee on your keypad?
:-)
faxman (9871)
433958 2006-03-02 22:10:00 Interesting info faxman kingdragonfly (309)
433959 2006-03-02 22:37:00 Many moons ago we had a character sevarel houses away who illegally plugged into our line. Is it possible that in the junction box at the end of your drive there are poor connections that depending on weather result in crossed lines. Problem will be getting it checked by Telecom without having to pay for the callout. FrankS (257)
433960 2006-03-02 22:57:00 Interesting info faxman

More like a rather curious viewpoint. Multiplexing of telephone calls isn't new, the exchange equipment has grouped more than 1 subscriber on a circuit board for well over 15 years. VOIP will bring new problems but it has all been done by magic for years.
PaulD (232)
433961 2006-03-02 23:26:00 No nothing was ever spilt on the keyboard, the phone hangs on the wall and I wasn't trying to dial anything when it came up with that bit of wierdness. mark c (247)
433962 2006-03-03 01:56:00 ... , recently, Telecom has started using "mini" exchanges (RLUs I think they are called) that multiplex signal bandwidth from several lines or premises and then feed them back to the main exchange.It's not just recently. The old party lines had up to six subs on one line. Everyone could listen in. Conference calls were standard. :D For many years, when there has been a shortage of pairs in cables, one pair has been shared between two subscribers. These have been standard lines, with electronic boxes at each end.. It's been called various things ... "pair-sharing" is one polite term. 56k modems don't do 56k on them :D That particular hardware is probably obsolete now ... the cordless phone explanation is most likely. Graham L (2)
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