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Thread ID: 138253 2014-10-30 05:07:00 Well Done National -- people who voted for them DONT complain wainuitech (129) PC World Chat
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1387160 2014-11-03 04:19:00 I voted for them and I'm not complaining.

I was complaining about Labour and their Nanny State.

I can just imagine computer techs out on the job saying I must have my tea break at 10.00.

Do all airline pilots take their tea break at the same time while flying a plane?
Digby (677)
1387161 2014-11-03 04:42:00 I voted for them and I'm not complaining.

I was complaining about Labour and their Nanny State.

I can just imagine computer techs out on the job saying I must have my tea break at 10.00.

Do all airline pilots take their tea break at the same time while flying a plane? From memory you're self employed which is different. What will happen is some places will remove a break altogether, which will then result in a safety concern. Twice today I was asked about work loads, and twice the customer commented that this new law is a bad idea as some employers will take it to far. I know of at least 3 places that will ( if they can get away with it), remove a break between start and lunch, and lunch and finish time.
wainuitech (129)
1387162 2014-11-03 08:09:00 It's past 9:00pm, time for another coffee break Ofthesea (14129)
1387163 2014-11-03 09:20:00 From memory you're self employed which is different. What will happen is some places will remove a break altogether, which will then result in a safety concern. Twice today I was asked about work loads, and twice the customer commented that this new law is a bad idea as some employers will take it to far. I know of at least 3 places that will ( if they can get away with it), remove a break between start and lunch, and lunch and finish time.

I think you will find that they haven't given the employer any right to *cancel* a tea break, merely to move it to a suitable time (for the business/customer).

I can't count the number of times I have been into a bank at lunchtime (for instance) when the queue was miles long because half the damn tellers were off having lunch. It HAD to be this way before this legislation because staff breaks were mandated to be between certain times. Now the employer has the flexibility to arrange breaks to suit their customer flow (and stagger lunch/tea breaks so as to provide better service to their customers).

This whole argument about National "doing away with tea breaks" is arrant nonsense and the legislation is an idea that is way late!!!
johcar (6283)
1387164 2014-11-03 17:32:00 And yet on a health and Safety note the Osh requirement is for no one to work more than 3 hours without a break, go figger how the Nutty nats are going to get that changed, oh like anything for the workers they will ignore it. gary67 (56)
1387165 2014-11-03 19:06:00 We have to wonder if a troopie private in the army, in the midst of a firefight against the Taliban, suddenly realises it's tea-time, puts his rifle on the ground for a smoko. Greg (193)
1387166 2014-11-03 19:31:00 We have to wonder if a troopie private in the army, in the midst of a firefight against the Taliban, suddenly realises it's tea-time, puts his rifle on the ground for a smoko.

A bit like the British troops stopping for break at Suvla bay, Gallipoli

Ken
kenj (9738)
1387167 2014-11-03 20:11:00 I can't count the number of times I have been into a bank at lunchtime (for instance) when the queue was miles long because half the damn tellers were off having lunch. It HAD to be this way before this legislation because staff breaks were mandated to be between certain times. Now the employer has the flexibility to arrange breaks to suit their customer flow (and stagger lunch/tea breaks so as to provide better service to their customers).
Okay explain this -- WHY don't YOU go in at a different time of day instead of at a known busy time ? I'll answer that question- its because that's the time you have your break -- so change your break time to suit the peak flows -- bet ya wont ;)

Along those lines, if all the tellers had to stay during a busy time, and lets say its from 11am- 2pm- when are they going o have a break for lunch.
In Wainuiomata- Forget about going to the bank at Westpac between 11.15 and 11.45 am -- WHY ? because they are CLOSED for a lunch break.
wainuitech (129)
1387168 2014-11-03 21:07:00 Good on you Wainuitech, but you won't make any headway on this Nazi forum.
After all THEY are always Reich!! ;)
KarameaDave (15222)
1387169 2014-11-03 21:24:00 Okay explain this -- WHY don't YOU go in at a different time of day instead of at a known busy time ? I'll answer that question- its because that's the time you have your break -- so change your break time to suit the peak flows -- bet ya wont ;)

Along those lines, if all the tellers had to stay during a busy time, and lets say its from 11am- 2pm- when are they going o have a break for lunch.
In Wainuiomata- Forget about going to the bank at Westpac between 11.15 and 11.45 am -- WHY ? because they are CLOSED for a lunch break.

But I'M the customer and the bank is in business to service my needs when I want them to (for the price of a mere arm and a leg!), so why should I change my schedule? This legislation allows the employer to stagger the breaks so in this case if there were six tellers in total, the bank could ensure four tellers were on at any one time, rather than only 3 as was the case before this change in the law.

I, like you, am self-employed (so the legislation doesn't - and didn't - apply. Even if it had, I would have ignored it.). But if my customer turns up at my desk at 10am with a request, I don't turn them away and ask them to come back after smoko - I bet you don't either!! If I did, I wouldn't be in business for long.

Why shouldn't all employers be able to make the same choices?

This is a storm in a tea cup (see what I did there? :D)
johcar (6283)
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